Is it me or Pre Bowling not the same as League

[MICHAEL]

Yes Bill ,,,, its SAD,,,, but we,, (YOU and I ) live in a world of sin, lies, and degradation!! If the world were more like The Dude, Iceman, and you Wild Bill,,, we would not have many of the sad problems we have today!

[got_a_300]

There was a guy this summer's Tuesday league that pre-bowled a 300. I called BS. He is a 140 average bowler. The guy at the counter printed out the sheet and guess what? There were three score corrections. All in the first game, his 300 game. I talked to the woman who worked the day he bowled. She said she was in the back stocking stuff when he bowled it and he didn't say a word about it until he was done. I text him and told him what I thought. He hasn't shown up since and even missed three weeks of pre-bowling.

bill I know what you are talking about we had things like that happen
way back in the day before the automatic scoring was put in along with
print out sheets. We had this one bowler with a 118 average pre bowl for
their league and was claiming they had back to back 300 games and a 840
series as they thought no one was watching them at the time.

Well turns out they had tried to do the same thing before in the scoring
department on another league before but no body could prove it as they
were not being watched at the time. Well this time the league secretary
had sneaked in and the gal at the front desk also watched them bowl the
games without them knowing they were being watched closely.

It turns out they were just doing a reset on the pins and marking down
strikes on the score sheet so they got caught and they were banned from
bowling anymore leagues in the center so they moved away years ago.

[billf]

This guy is just an acquaintance, by no means a friend. But I did tell him we use the honor system and that there is no honor in cheating. I may have suggested that he not come back until he could do so honorably but those details are a bit sketchy as I was pretty pissed off by then.

[RoccoRock]

I never saw the point of cheating in a recreational activity that you do for a hobby. I've raced remote control cars for 16 years, and we catch cheaters way too much. What's the point, there's absolutly no money in it. Most weeks, if you win, you get nothing, not even a trophy. Wow, you get to go home and say you finished 5th insteas of 7th, but you have to know in your mind you cheated to get there, so what was the ponit? You weren't better, you just cheated, and in the end, you cheated yourself.

[MICHAEL]

I never saw the point of cheating in a recreational activity that you do for a hobby. I've raced remote control cars for 16 years, and we catch cheaters way too much. What's the point, there's absolutly no money in it. Most weeks, if you win, you get nothing, not even a trophy. Wow, you get to go home and say you finished 5th insteas of 7th, but you have to know in your mind you cheated to get there, so what was the ponit? You weren't better, you just cheated, and in the end, you cheated yourself.

Why does a person cheat in bowling/prebowling? Plain and simple, EGO!! Wanting to appear better then they actually are! (((its their perfect chance)))! But much harder to do now then in the days of paper scoring! I don’t think score corrections should be allowed on pre-bowling unless game is being witnessed by an official! Sad, but some with people with low EGO, and even lower self-esteem, will sadly cheat to get the WIN/recognition!

[J Anderson]

Why does a person cheat in bowling/prebowling? Plain and simple, EGO!! Wanting to appear better then they actually are! (((its their perfect chance)))! But much harder to do now then in the days of paper scoring! I don’t think score corrections should be allowed on pre-bowling unless game is being witnessed by an official! Sad, but some with people with low EGO, and even lower self-esteem, will sadly cheat to get the WIN/recognition!

People with truly low self esteem do not cheat. The honest low score fits with their mind's view of where they belong. It is those who have an inflated self esteem, who believe they are better than they really are, who cheat. They see the low score or the bad leave that conflicts with their self image and hit the replay frame or the correct score button.

[johnnyt]

Here when we prebowl the whole team has to be present and the opposing team has the option to prebowl with you. Most times the opposing team doesn't, our team never prebowls. On league nights there is always someone wanting to sub, if not we just take blind scores for the member thats out that night. I agree prebowling gives those teams that would cheat the opportunity to do so. I was at a tournament a few weeks ago when a 200 average bowler failed to report a 10 pin come out of the gutter to pick up a spare. I know he knew better!

[martinezsam2495]

were not allowed to do that in our league, subbing, so pre bowling is allowed.