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    I asked for my new guy to watch me and find my PAP and he was more than happy to do it. Had the control desk turn on a lane in front of the pro shop. Found my PAP within a few minutes....drilled my ball for more mid lane read and a smoother hook...Now I just need to get a little more consitant to make the most of it.

    One thing is for sure. There is a pro shop about 20 minutes away. I drive twice as far to see this guy on service and attitude alone.

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    How does one find the best pro shop service without expensive trial and error?

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    ask around on league night everyone will tell u someone some where word of mouth mostly
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    There are several questions I always ask before I will let a pro shop operator even touch my equipment.

    1. Do you know the Dual Angle layout technique?
    - If the pro shop is not willing to stay current with the current most popular techniques, why would they want to take the time to drill in the first place? Oh wait, for the money?

    2. What would you recommend for a bowler wanting to bowl on a typical house pattern (or the local house's pattern)?
    - If they just suggest buying the most expensive items with no real explanation why, I generally go elsewhere. If they don't ask me anything else about my personal style, I go elsewhere.

    3. I prefer to buy from a typical manufacturer. What are your opinions about <specify ball>?
    - OK, I got it. You don't like Brunswick! I do. Get over it! Stop trying to tell me their equipment sucks. In the 3 years since I started bowling, using nothing but Brunswick, I now average 190 at one house and around 180 in two others. I'm no pro, but I get the feeling it's not the equipment that sucks. Zing!

    It helps to do some research before you make a purchase. Look up ball reviews online. Ask local league bowlers who they had drill their equipment and what they thought.

    I hear people complain quite often about pro shop operators who messed up their ball. This is not just the operator's fault. You must know what you want and what you should and should not do. Pro shops also need to step up and take care of the customer's personal needs as a bowler.

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    The main reason I watch someone throw the ball is if they are buying a resin ball with a large core inside that makes the ball gyrate on it's axis as it's rolling down the lane. If they are a full roller, you need to place the pin in a certain area so the player doesn't flare over the thumb hole. You also need to see where they track in order to place the pin far enough away from the track and pap. The only people I do not watch are beginners buying a plastic ball with a conventional drill. No weight block inside a plastic ball, just a puck to offset the weight removed by drilling the thumb and finger holes. However, it is imperative to watch someone throw the ball if they gonna spend close to two hundred dollars on a bowling ball. You need to know what their ball speed, rev rate, axis point and axis tilt are to give them the best bang for their buck.

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    I was pretty PO'ed at my house who drilled both of my bowling balls. Here's why. A couple of months ago, I pulled my fingertips out to replace them with power lift tips and the bridge underneath both my Nexus and Taboo were pretty much gone..they drilled too close to the pin on my Nexus, so we had to "replace" that. So, since I know a guy who drills balls now, I go to him, because he's done it for years, and I know he's not going to mess up..the next ball I buy in the next couple weeks, which hopefully will be a Sigma Tour..we're probably going to sit down and talk about how it needs to be drilled..since he watches me bowl twice a week..he has an idea on how I bowl. =P
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    Mine didnt watch me bowl but that because i dont get mine drilled at a pro shop. He has his own store unaffiliated with an alley. I went to him because online and irl he gets nothing but praise from customers. He put a middle of the road drilling on my crossroad as i was looking for a ball for a range of situations which is why the crossroad was recommended in the first place. He never pushed a high end ball and would only talk about them if i asked. The proshop guy at my alley on the other hand, well i wouldnt trust him to drill a ball i got from the thrift store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-tank View Post
    Mine didnt watch me bowl but that because i dont get mine drilled at a pro shop. He has his own store unaffiliated with an alley. I went to him because online and irl he gets nothing but praise from customers. He put a middle of the road drilling on my crossroad as i was looking for a ball for a range of situations which is why the crossroad was recommended in the first place. He never pushed a high end ball and would only talk about them if i asked. The proshop guy at my alley on the other hand, well i wouldnt trust him to drill a ball i got from the thrift store.
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    My pro shop guy has bowled in leagues with me and he knows how I thow the ball. I think that you should have the pro shop watch you throw a few ball prior to drilling a reactive ball for you.
    The first ball this guy ever drilled for me was a disaster. He didnt watch me throw and didnt realize how much ball speed i have after that I didnt use him for a while but when I went back to him after bowling in a league with him he did great.
    This last ball I had drilled was an expirment trying a new layout I just had the Reign On drilled with a rico pattern seems to be working pretty good so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by tccstudent View Post
    My pro shop guy has bowled in leagues with me and he knows how I thow the ball. I think that you should have the pro shop watch you throw a few ball prior to drilling a reactive ball for you.
    The first ball this guy ever drilled for me was a disaster. He didnt watch me throw and didnt realize how much ball speed i have after that I didnt use him for a while but when I went back to him after bowling in a league with him he did great.
    This last ball I had drilled was an expirment trying a new layout I just had the Reign On drilled with a rico pattern seems to be working pretty good so far
    Unless youre fairly consistent with shot placement and speed/revs, layouts arent a huge deal. I only have one ball drilled for me with a generic layout and the rest are used with who knows what layout and i do just fine with them
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