Dumping sandbagging whatever

[Hot_pocket]

Whether it's bowling, politics or anything else, a person's integrity can have a price. For some, that price is really low.

Its ridiculous if you ask me if your gifter with a skill use it to the best of you ability in the good way not to make yourself seem like a bad bowler.

[panbanger]

There's one group of tourneys that go around here. If you click on results, the same 3 or 4 guys always win. I bowled in the tourney once, and saw the averages of these bowlers. I did the math on there averages, and the final numbers they put up each tourney. Seems like every tourney, they bowl 30 to 40 pins above there average a game. They carry 180 averages, but never bowl a game under 200.

So would this mean that they sandbag during their league play, then play "normal" for the tournaments? I'm not really familiar with this and just trying to figure out in my head how this would work. I'm guess they're in a "fun" league that doesnt have much in the way of prizes, so keep their averages down for the big money tournaments?

[Hot_pocket]

So would this mean that they sandbag during their league play, then play "normal" for the tournaments? I'm not really familiar with this and just trying to figure out in my head how this would work. I'm guess they're in a "fun" league that doesnt have much in the way of prizes, so keep their averages down for the big money tournaments?

its exactly what they do but its also benefits them in leagues because if you can dump for a season and come back with that average you can make 1st place money in brackets and pots and other side bets that are handicap. The easiest is when you have teammates because you can take turns bowling bad while winning. I was a 211 when i started my league last season but finished at 203 (my league has a 10 pin drop rule so i was at 201 till the last couple weeks ) I was just struggling and they knew i was because everyone knew me and i shot 300 but would only put up numbers every other week.

[RoccoRock]

its exactly what they do but its also benefits them in leagues because if you can dump for a season and come back with that average you can make 1st place money in brackets and pots and other side bets that are handicap. The easiest is when you have teammates because you can take turns bowling bad while winning. I was a 211 when i started my league last season but finished at 203 (my league has a 10 pin drop rule so i was at 201 till the last couple weeks ) I was just struggling and they knew i was because everyone knew me and i shot 300 but would only put up numbers every other week.

Yes, some people are very skilled at sandbagging. We used to bowl against a team that won the league every year. Here is how they did it. Almost every game we played against them, they trailed going into the 10th, by a few pins, or just ahead by a few. Then all 4 bowlers would strike out the 10th, or the first two would, and our first two would stink, so there second two had wiggle room to tank, and still win the game. Just show up and bowl. So annoying. I would have no problem with re-establishing averages every 5 weeks or so. I would rather carry a nice big avearage, than have a crappy average, a huge handicap, and win games cause I sucked for a few weeks, then figured it out. My personal goal is to have the highest average in the leagues I'm in. Now, I'm no where close, and with using a sanctioned average that is so low, I have no shot of having high average.

[Hot_pocket]

Yes, some people are very skilled at sandbagging. We used to bowl against a team that won the league every year. Here is how they did it. Almost every game we played against them, they trailed going into the 10th, by a few pins, or just ahead by a few. Then all 4 bowlers would strike out the 10th, or the first two would, and our first two would stink, so there second two had wiggle room to tank, and still win the game. Just show up and bowl. So annoying. I would have no problem with re-establishing averages every 5 weeks or so. I would rather carry a nice big avearage, than have a crappy average, a huge handicap, and win games cause I sucked for a few weeks, then figured it out. My personal goal is to have the highest average in the leagues I'm in. Now, I'm no where close, and with using a sanctioned average that is so low, I have no shot of having high average.

sounds about right those are the same guys who wouldnt step up to a scratch league because they would really have to bowl.

[panbanger]

I think sandbagging is poor sportsmanship. There's no way to prove that it's being done though. I would really be mad though if it was happening right in front of me!

[Hot_pocket]

I think sandbagging is poor sportsmanship. There's no way to prove that it's being done though. I would really be mad though if it was happening right in front of me!

No there are ways its one of those things where its like if you average 180 you can expect 180-190 an a occasional high 200 but if you see someone who generally has a 180 shooting 200 2 out of 3 games or missing obviously easy spares or even the person who carries 4 balls and know exactly what in their bag works for certain lane conditions but still takes out the wrong ball to use during league their doing it on purpose. Especially those who like to bowl tournaments thats what they use their low averages for.

[edpup316]

I think we should just start cutting people whether they are sandbaggers or not. Ya we hurt some feelings of low avg bowlers that actually have a good day but it would out the more likely chance of that person being a sandbagger.

[panbanger]

Or better yet, we could hit them with actual bags of sand! And make them change their names to Sandy.

[striker12]

im a half sand bagger and half not cause i have a few good days and the other days i have bad days but more bad days then good but for the past 3 weeks ihave had a few good games of 200 but always end up with one game beeing below avg.