How do I get more Revs?

[GoodGorilla]

Revs can be most easily achieved by concentrating on two things:
- As you have already read, you can accelerate through the ball as you release;
- Concentrate on coming up the back of the ball more as you release it. This will give you more "end over end" revs which adds power to your shot.

Jay

Could you elaborate on making end over end rotation? Is this from the un-cupping process and/or lifting with the fingers? How is this tied in with turning your hand to a 45 ish degree?

[Hot_pocket]

Hot Pocket,

When i work with a bowler I will always try to keep them as "natural" as possible based on what I see them doing. I do not try to "remake" the person into a textbook type bowler, BUT, when someone asks the question, as he did, and you have as many responses as shown here, it becomes very apparent that the guy really needs to change something. That said, when you find out he's ending on the wrong foot, the first thing to try to do ( as Bill said) is at least get him into a starting position that will give him the best possible chance of getting the proper leverage he needs to stay under the ball.

I bowl in a league with a 'wrong foot Louie' , and he consistently is a 220+ average bowler. BUT, he's the ONLY one I've seen in years that actually has it mastered. So you have to decide when someone is trying to improve their game, how far should I try to change them? It's apparent he wants to improve, so you offer your "suggestions" that "might" help him achieve his goals. As I tell many of my students, when you decide to change something it may take a lot of practice to get it down where your muscle memory will just take over and you'll be able to do this totally natural. But the goal is "improvement". If it doesn't work, then go back to what feels natural and work on perfecting that.


Bob

I understand that and i said i do agree with trying with people suggest I just want him to know that what he does isnt wrong because the statement was made that it was. What i said was only my opinion just like everyone else and it wasnt to be negative in anyway it was just how I saw it from the answers that suggestion that were given. I respect everyone on this site because they are bowlers trying to help other bowlers. I just may not agree with them. I just hope they didnt see what i said and took offense but understood what i was saying in terms of how he may feel most comfortable. Like i said i agree with taking ALL suggestions and trying them all but my main point is it isnt wrong that he lands on his right if thats his natural.

p.s. I hope that cleared up what i was saying and once again i meant not to offend anyone.

[The German Shepherd]

Could you elaborate on making end over end rotation? Is this from the un-cupping process and/or lifting with the fingers? How is this tied in with turning your hand to a 45 ish degree?

If you go on YOUTUBE, you will see some slo-mo vids of some pros and their releases. Give that a try...

Jay

[billf]

I'm not offended. I think part of it is semantics. "Wrong" foot was stated several times instead of posting "ball side foot". As long as the ball goes down the lane nothing else is "wrong" in bowling. It's a great sport that allows for a degree of individuality.

[bowl1820]

Regardless of the terminology used, sliding on the "ball side foot" I think should be avoided. IMO It can introduce problems into your form.

About sliding on the non-"ball side foot" there's this From -"Fine Tuning the Physical Game"

Moving the ball-side foot to the outside of the slide foot accomplishes several positive things:
• It helps open the hip to allow more clearance for the bowling ball as it moves past.
• Creates a path or a hole that armswing will fill when delivering the ball.
• Armswing has an opportunity to be close to the slide foot creating a strong leverage position.
• It provides a counter balance or action to all the motion that must occur on the ball-side of the body.
• It shifts the weight of the body toward the side opposite the bowling ball for better balance.

So by sliding on the "ball side foot" you wouldn't be benefiting these things

[Keithalw]

Well rather it be landing on wrong foot right foot or whatever foot lol I went and practiced tonight... I stated before I want to get more revs and seeing as I landed on the same foot I throw with some people suggested that I try landing with the left foot instead... I did so and here is what I shot tonight 142 110 157 165 161. I averaged out the practice session with a 147 which is only about 10-15 pins below my normal average. Not bad I do not think. I had two buddies one saying if right feels better then do it the other saying if your going to try to change choose so and stick with it... so they had teh idea bowl three frames left landing three right so I did... the first time I did ok with my right foot landing but the second time without noticing so I landed on my left without thinking about it... it wasnt the best but it was almost like natural dare I say lol....

I will say that usually practicing at the tens my first few times when I landed on my right I usually hit gutter right before the pin. tonight when ten was left up me landing on my left foot I either hit the ten or barely missed it just a tad left of it never went gutter.

I do see how landing on the left opens up my body and even get a little higher back swing. I do know that the timing is off a good bit and also my ball speed isnt where it was but also know that this is going to be different seeing as I am trying something new with my approach.

i did how ever do a four step approach the whole time without looking like I was drunk lol I just had to take my time and and practice at it. I do not think I did to terribly bad and who knows maybe I can get the hang of it in a shorter time than I thought i would lol.... btw I want to thank all of you for your input and opinions on this matter. So glad that there is this forum of people online trying to help other bowlers improve there game....

[bowl1820]

One thing to remember is things take time, if you make a change you have to stick with it and get use to it. Then the improvement will start to come,then you'll see a better swing and with improved leverage your rev's should improve also.

[Tampabaybob]

No harm or offense taken here either. Every bowler has their own unique style and it'e important to work on the style that fits them the best. The intent of most of the people that commented (including me) was that Keith is more likely to improve faster and increase his revs (which was the original question). If he choses to continue to slide on his right foot then so be it. Whatever his comfort zone is he needs to work on it. Making a drastic change from sliding on his right foot to his left is not easy and would take plenty of practice. But that should be his decision.

Bob

[Tampabaybob]

Keith.... Glad to see you tried a regular 4 step approach and I think your scores for this attempt are good. It shows you have the balance to be able to pull this off if you want to make the change. From those scores you will definitely improve with practice. If you can find a local coach, that should speed your improvement process. Good luck and keep us informed.

Bob

[JaMau24]

Keith, glad to see that you are already showing improvement in such a short amount of time. It's only been a few days and you're feeling more comfortable. Just imagine another week of practice, or a month! Good luck and keep it going!