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    next time u got for the 7-10 split go for the 10pin with alittle hook on the ball will make the 10pin bounce off the wall and if u got the ball fast enoph could make the ball go jsut ahead of the pin and the pin will deflect off the back of the ball and right back onto the lane.

    i do that when i leave up the 4-6-10 and hit it 50% of the time sometimes my speed is too slow
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    The only way I've been able to pick up the 7-10 split is by hitting the 7 with speed. I usually do stand further left with the HRR but for practice I will shoot every board combo that I don't normally use with that ball. Like with the Reckless; most wouldn't stand on 35 with that ball. Striker, even the Misfit made an appearance lol
    The balance issue was back. Part of that is my balance arm and leg being lazy. Another part, I believe, is the issue with the step spacing throwing my timing off slightly which affects center of gravity. Of course the combination of these issues affected my ball speed greatly. Explains the loss of 5mph the last two weeks as my average speed was only around 14.7mph

    BTW, after 9 right knee surgeries some of my lack of holding a finish position is physical and also psychological. I know my knee can't hold the weight for long. The left holds the weight but has been making up for the lack of strength in the right for so long I worry it's been over worked. Come to think of it, my problems returned after the right knee locked up on the approach a few weeks ago. Now as I type, I'm wondering if without realizing it, I reverted back to what didn't allow the knee lock up/pain/swelling, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by billf View Post
    BTW, after 9 right knee surgeries some of my lack of holding a finish position is physical and also psychological. I know my knee can't hold the weight for long. The left holds the weight but has been making up for the lack of strength in the right for so long I worry it's been over worked. Come to think of it, my problems returned after the right knee locked up on the approach a few weeks ago. Now as I type, I'm wondering if without realizing it, I reverted back to what didn't allow the knee lock up/pain/swelling, etc
    Could be the case. Think of it like this... In baseball, if a pitcher hurts their leg, they often times aren't allowed to stay in the game. Their arm and upper body is completely fine, BUT having an injury to the lower body is going to make them favor the other leg. Consequently, the throwing motion by the pitcher is going to be different and they are going to put more stress on their arm, and risk major injury to their arm/elbow/shoulder.

    Now while you may not have a major injury risk while trying to mask the other pain/injury, it still can cause you to throw it different. So basically, if you're knee is hurting you, or you locked up/hurt your knee a few weeks ago, obviously you don't want that to happen again and you don't want it to hurt, so you and/or your body could be making you throw it differently. So if you want it to return to normal (if there is no injury or pain), you just have to trust it and go back to what you were doing before it locked up on you.
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    Couldn't add to anything already said but I did notice the lane you were using seems to drop the 7 pin quite often. Reminds me of the days I worked as a pin chaser. I hated it when that would happen over and over during a league. Lol
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    at 5:50 I can see you throw a strike, then you walk back, grab your ball and go again. i think that maybe you should slow down a bit. take a little time when standing on the approach to run some thoughts through your head. just a suggestion. maybe it'll help a little!

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    I think you could benefit by raising your left arm out there for balance. Your steps appear a little off as mentioned earlier. Your release looks alright for what you are doing. I would prefer an earlier release or timing, but the arm/approach should be addressed first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgw View Post
    I think you could benefit by raising your left arm out there for balance. Your steps appear a little off as mentioned earlier. Your release looks alright for what you are doing. I would prefer an earlier release or timing, but the arm/approach should be addressed first.
    My whole approach, release and balance is keyed off of my balance arm and leg. When going right, my balance arm will go out towards my target, helping my steps be correct in length and tempo and when it comes around to the side it puts my torso in the correct position for the release and balance. When the arm gets lazy the tempo, step length and everything else goes to heck.
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    Bill.....several good suggestions presented here, but let me add a couple, if I may. First of all your approach speed is a little fast and it appears you may be getting to the line before your ball. You're completely stopped before the ball is next to your leg. Just stopped the video on your last step, and your ball is 'just starting on the way down' in your backswing and your slide foot is almost stopped. You're way ahead of the ball. (slow, slow, quick, quick, with your steps).

    The other thing I'm noticing is on your last step (again use a stop motion sequence to see this) you are hitting the floor heel first on your slide. You are planting that last step instead of sliding. Try dragging that last step and sliding on the ball of your shoe. Not the easiest thing to change but it'll help you bring everything back into time; feet, arm swing and slide. Keep your left arm out, away from your body, on the 2nd, 3rd and last step at the line with your thumb pointing down.

    Also, next video, try to get your entire body in the picture, and have it a little lighter. Good luck, want to hear your thoughts.

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    I can't control the lighting there especially when they are busy. I wasn't trying to get my whole body in as I was confident my head wasn't an issue but boy was I upset when I saw how bad everything was. As for the slide; I gave that up years ago but the heel first is a new thing that I believe Bowl1820 nailed the cause of. I am getting to the line ahead of the ball but the speed on the approach is not the issue. No disrespect to anybody here (or myself) but I will defer to Ron Hatfield on that as he is the one that wanted me to speed up the tempo on the approach. When I'm not butchering the rest up the ball going at 23mph at 50 feet with matching revs is a beautiful thing.

    My real question is, how were you able to save the video to play it on a different player? I would love to be able to view some of the vids posted on my Storm software.
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    Bill, notice in your video how many times you're keeping your balance at the line throughout the shot and how many times you end up having to catch your balance with your right foot. That to me is a red flag. The times you are balanced you are just a bit slower with your feet and when you have to catch yourself your feet are just a touch faster.

    When you finish at the line you want your hand/ball to be right there too. Ron may have wanted you to speed up your approach but I think he still wants to have everything get there together. You can try raising your ball in the stance which will lower your back swing and therefore get the ball down sooner and maybe come together quicker. Just a thought.

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