Need hook help :(

**AngeloPD** · 09-15-2012, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Zothen

AngeloPD-That was 1 of the problems I had! 1/4 right and 1/4 down I think was what I had. Changed to 0 pitch with slightly snug fit. Took about 2 weeks of practice to get used to not squeezing the ball. Now I have a much better track on my ball and i'm not coming over top of ball like I used to. If you don't want to change pitches,you can try a thumb straight. Thumb straight helps keep your thumb straight.

Zothen

Mine is 1/8 left and 1/4 down, right now i have Ron Clifton's magic carpet to make it snug but i still grab the ball with my thumb! Zothen, how did you manage to fix your pitch? is it just trial and error? would you recommend me going to your driller? I want to change my pitch but my driller insisted that im squeezing the ball because im muscling it down, as i said, i let the ball fall in motion and i still squeeze on the bottom of the down swing. maybe this is why i have a very low track on my ball and my ball spins so ugly haha

**Zothen** · 09-15-2012, 03:08 AM

AngeloPD-I would suggets talking to my pro guy first and get a second opinion before changing. Going to a 0 pitch is something to consider once you get another opinion. I corrected mine by putting a thumb slug in my ball and drilling it for snug fit,then adjusting the snugness so I could get my thumb out.

Zothen

**rab91787** · 09-15-2012, 11:23 AM

Went to a rock n glow last night and worked on my 2 finger technique. Had 8 strikes first game for a 212 I think, then a 190 something, but once the oil broke down I was doomed. If I stood at the gutter and drifted left during my approach I'd hit 1-3 half the time, but I didn't have a good game after that. I'm thinking of getting a entry-level reactive ball from another pro shop and having them drill it for max length in order to control the ball once the lanes dry up.

**billf** · 09-15-2012, 04:20 PM

Thumb pitch is a personal thing and one that's hard to get correct, or at least find a driller to get correct. The frustrating part is how much is affects rotation, tilt, revs, accuracy and speed. With so many "certified" drillers that can't seem to get the proper thumb pitch and/or fit, it's no wonder so many bowlers struggle to improve and others just abandon the game.

I've had three very experienced drillers come up with totally different spans and pitches for me. I let the one that fits and works best drill them. What's even nicer is he is now letting me lay out my own balls. Next for me is a new spare ball so the thumb pitch will be the same, let's see if that helps my spare game some.

**bowl1820** · 09-15-2012, 07:45 PM

If you want a starting point for thumb pitch you can try this

For the laterial pitch.

Lateral pitches found with a standard sized beverage can, can be calculated using figure 2.
For a right hander, negative is left and positive is right pitch.
For a left hander, negative is right and positive is left pitch.
The proper lateral pitch in the image is 0.

For the forward or reverse, look at the thumb angle section of Mo's fitting guide here:
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ima...ichFitting.pdf

then use the thumb angle pitch chart here:
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ima...anglechart.JPG

Alternate links
Okay heres a different link to the fitting guide:
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ima...structions.pdf

And heres a different link to the thumb angle chart:
http://www.innovativebowling.com/pro...itch_Chart.gif

For the laterial pitch
250px-Lateral_thumbpitch.jpg