Finding the breakpoint vs the Exit point formula

[bowl1820]

In regards to the exit point formula (Pattern length - 31= Exit point), there's a opposing view (from Mo) to "Take the length of the pattern minus 31 rule and shove it. Not accurate."

Which I believe is mainly because the formula goes wonky on short patterns and it's possible to have a breakpoint back in the oil before the exit point.

So knowing where to find a starting place for the breakpoint would be more helpful. So we have to look at the forward oil, because forward oil controls the breakpoint location.

Now a way has been put forth on how to find the board the breakpoint is on. By looking at the composite graph of the oil pattern. (you can also find it by looking at the Lane Machine Settings chart)

What you do is look for the highest corners of the red bars on the bar graph and subtract 3. That's the place to start looking for the breakpoint. (But this doesn't tell you how far down the lane it is)

Remember that the loads are applied to the buffer brush, so ALL the forward loads affect the breakpoint.

Here's a example: using Kegel's DEAD MAN’S CURVE 3043 Pattern
Direct Download the pdf for the pattern here http://www.kegel.net/V3/PatternLibra...&ID=607&Type=2

or see the webpage here and click on composite view http://www.kegel.net/V3/PatternLibra...rn.aspx?ID=607


In this example the highest red bar is on board 14, so 14-3= 11. That's where you start looking for your breakpoint.


from the Lane Machine Settings chart

Now my thought is not so much to shove the exit point formula, but to look at the situation and see if it would be beneficial if used. Like use the end of pattern minus 31 to give you a starting place, when the only info you have avalible is the length of the pattern.

And also look at how it might be combined with the breakpoint formula.

[billf]

By what I bowled this past summer on Sport patterns, this seems fairly accurate. The breakpoint seemed to be about 45' but did vary by pattern.

[MICHAEL]

interesting! Just the other day I was reading about the rule of 31. Your link to pattern did not work for me! Most importantly, would you get rid of that damn bug that's on all your threads before I put my fist through my screen!!!!! Lol..... lose it, it drives us crazy!! lol

[bowl1820]

interesting! Just the other day I was reading about the rule of 31. Your link to pattern did not work for me! Most importantly, would you get rid of that damn bug that's on all your threads before I put my fist through my screen!!!!! Lol..... lose it, it drives us crazy!! lol

Link works here, but I added another one.
Direct Download the pdf for the pattern here http://www.kegel.net/V3/PatternLibra...&ID=607&Type=2

or see the webpage here and click on composite view http://www.kegel.net/V3/PatternLibra...rn.aspx?ID=607


Bug? what bug?

[MICHAEL]

Service Unavailable

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable

This is the message I get when I try to open it!! ( Bug,,,,, what bug?) Maybe that's my problem, my coumputer has a bug!! LOL....
Maybe I was not meant to go there!! lol

[striker12]

i can say this is too confusing for me im trying to understand it but its just not clicking in there the graph's i have never been good with and i have always been good at math i think i can only understand graphs if i got intructuions on how to read it step by step lol.


but bowl the bug michael is saying is the one in your signature thats doing the figure 8 it looks good but when u dont relize its there you think its a bug on your computer i have already tryed to whip it off my computer 2 times lol

[MICHAEL]

thanks striker, for making that more clear!!! lol I now need a new monitor,,, put my fist through the screen trying to kill that crazy figure 8 bug!! lol

[striker12]

lol one time i thought it was the bug on my screen and then i thoguht thats alittle big and it was a real fly on my screen lol