Wow A $10000 dollar end of summer league tournament. Was that just for that league or all the summer leagues?
My thoughts on sanbagging. Just wondering
I have never in my life ever sandbagged in bowling. I don't like it at all. Recently in a summer league a few bowlers (who avg. around 215-230) were just shooting around 180-190, and everyone knew they were sandbagging it. This was a handicap league, with a $10k tourney at the end of the session. Myself and my teammates (a trio league) new that it would be hard to beat all the teams since we were bowling pretty good (my avg.222 and my teammates were 220 and 185). We got lucky and won the league by just one game. There were actually a few very good teams that bowled very well during the league. They didn't sandbag. Anyway when it came time for the tourney we qualified during the first rd., but lost in the 2nd rd. We had to bowl against a team that we had to spot 85-90 pins per game and we got just 24 pins. This was baker style and it was very hard to pick up about 85-90 per game. They of course were one of many teams that didn't bowl up to their regular avg. (One bowler had a book avg. of 210 during the winter leagues, but avg. just 175 during this summer league. I won't be bowling this league next summer that is for sure.
But I think that you folks get the idea. I will be bowling this winter in a pro-practice league (pba oiling patterns) and hopefully I can do well. I know that there is a conversion rate from sport-shot to regular league bowling. Some people may even think that I will be "sandbagging", but I will trying my best to do good.
I sit and read,
rongarm
Wow A $10000 dollar end of summer league tournament. Was that just for that league or all the summer leagues?
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
"Talent without training is nothing." Luke Skywalker
It was from 4 Brunswick bowling centers from around the area. Something like 65-70 teams bowling the $10k finals.
I sit and read,
rongarm
By USBC rules, Tournament directors have a fairly free hand to re-rate handicaps. There is also a rule that bars bowlers from using an average that has dropped more than 10 pins. At the very least, the bowler with the 210 winter average should have been re-rated to 200. While it may not change anything I think you should make a written complaint to both the tournament director and the local USBC association. We need to let the powers that be know that we won't put up with blatant sandbagging.Originally Posted by rongarm
John
That's what I was thinking too. Every tourney I have been in used the last years book average unless there was a 10 pin higher difference with the current year. If the average was 10 pins higher you used that one. I even had to call myself out in one tourney as they had a really wrong book average for me (40 pins under) I could have just went with it and taken those free pins, but where is the sport in that? I know we have sandbaggers in the league and it really does suck, but there isn't much you can do about it.
i'm sure the letter wouldn't hurt. the usbc definatly wants you to keep bowling. they don't wanna lose your business. so maybe you could let them know that.
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