Trying to get axis rotation, rotating fingers around ball?

[AngeloPD]

Where's the link Bob! i want to see!!

[Zothen]

I met Chris Barnes last Tuesday at a seminar I went to. He was very nice and had some great tips for me to use in my sport league.

Zothen

[Ball99999]

Can anyone settle something for me:

Do you impart hook/rotation using ONLY the fingers or do you use part of your forearm and use the same motion as opening a door knob?

[Zothen]

Hook/lift is created by the fingers lifting the ball when the wrist is rotated from 6 o' clock to 3 o'clock.

Zothen

[billf]

Can anyone settle something for me:

Do you impart hook/rotation using ONLY the fingers or do you use part of your forearm and use the same motion as opening a door knob?

Depends. Do you want to throw a correct hook with the least amount of effort and maximize the rev potential or throw the type of hook most intermediate to lower level bowlers throw? The doorknob way is the easiest to teach and learn. And as I've said many times here, if you are rotating your fingers at a fast pace the wrist will rotate naturally. As for the forearm, the lower part by your wrist has to rotate with the wrist but the upper part should not rotate in either style as they would cause the elbow to rotate (chciken wing).

[Ball99999]

I just don't see how it's possible to do the hook thing with just fingers :/

[billf]

I need to copy and paste this. It seems I have to post this at least once a month lol
Hold your arm and hand down on the release position. Watch your body as you slightly uncup the wrist, with thumb at 1:00, rotate your middle and ring fingers to around the 4:00 position. The wrist will rotate. It has to. The finger rotation is beyond the flexibility point of the human hand which causes the wrist to rotate to a slight degree. Naturally the lower half of the forearm has to rotate with the wrist. It has to. It's basic human kinesiology. Now doing this at full speed with the ball weight can create times where the fingers end up closer to 3:30. The goal is index finger at 3:00 which puts the middle finger at 4:00, ring finger at 5:00, thumb on follow through at 12:00.

[billf]

This video doesn't cover playing the inside part of the ball but that technique appears to be too difficult for most bowlers.

[Ball99999]

Things are allll starting to make sense now

http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip20.htm

Before I would try to really lift the ball using the fingertip grips. Now I'm realizing I don't have to grab at all and just let go.
Right?

[billf]

Yes!