I think I found the problem.. I was
Convinced the rotation had to be after the thumb came out. If I rotate before thumb comes out much easier to do
Trying to get axis rotation, rotating fingers around ball?
I'm trying to rotate my fingers around the ball now... does it feel like you're partially lifting with the sides of your fingers? I don't want to break my fingers or anything if I'm doing it wrong.
If I really cup my wrist I can get a lot of axis rotation... but would that create too much hook?
Orrr is all that need is to cock my wrist (not cup, though I could cup when I need hook) to get axis rotation?
Last edited by Ball99999; 09-11-2012 at 04:57 AM.
I think I found the problem.. I was
Convinced the rotation had to be after the thumb came out. If I rotate before thumb comes out much easier to do
Tried everything tonight. I think I want to cut my hand off. Can't get side roll to save my life.
Try throwing the ball as if your going to shake someones hand and bring hand & forearm to side of your head. If done right,you will create lift and roll.
Zothen
But are you lifting with the sides of the tips of your fingers?
Ok, to get the best roll AND axis rotation your thumb should be 'on the way out' of the ball as you start rotating your wrist and "LIFTING" with your fingers. Remember, your thumb is only there to help hang onto the ball and the work/motion is handled by your wrist and fingers. One of the hardest things is to "FEEL" your hand coming past your leg, which is where your rotation starts. If you start it before then your hand/thumb is going to go over the top of the ball. Try a few swings standing at the foul line next time you practice and actually WATCH your arm swinging and your hand coming down thru the back swing and coming past your leg. Then go back to your full approach and try it. It's not the hardest thing in the world to do but you do have to feel it. Start keeping your wrist straight instead of cupping.....one step at a time. Keep your thumb at about 2:00 all the way thru and start the release as your hand is passing your slide leg. Try it and let me know if that helps. And yes, you are lifting with the tips of your fingers !
Bob
The tips yes, but are you lifting with the sides of the tips as well?
I've done practices at home and it's easy, and it's also easy to get side rotation without using a thumb. But when actually bowling and with a thumb, it just never happens for me. I can't seem to feel it. And it happens so fast.
Also trying to figure out if you can ONLY turn when the thumb is out or if you can start turning right before the thumb will leave.
Last edited by Ball99999; 09-12-2012 at 08:38 AM.
Your lifting with the pads of the fingers. The Rotation of the ball comes as the thumb exits the ball, the wrist rotates the (RH)hand counterclockwise where the fingers release the ball.Originally Posted by Ball99999
It would be kinda like turning a dial, where you grip the dial with the pads of your fingers and turn it by rotating your wrist.
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Bowl99999 do you live in the area of Los Angeles,CA? If you do,I would be glad to help you.
Zothen
Zothen, maybe you can help me?
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