Trying to get axis rotation, rotating fingers around ball?

[Tampabaybob]

Of course you'll feel the ball on the edges of your finger tips somewhat as the ball leaves your hand. As bowl1820 stated you're gripping it with the pads of your fingers, but as you rotate it at the point of release you may feel some pressure on the sides of your finger tips. It's normal, don't worry about it. If the ball is drilled correctly your ball should come of your hand comfortably.

Bob

[Zothen]

@AngeloPD-I'm free Tues,Thurs,Sat & sunday mornings after 11a.

Zothen

[AngeloPD]

Zothen, tuesday before 5pm maybe around 4? right before my league starts. are you free?

[Ball99999]

Your lifting with the pads of the fingers. The Rotation of the ball comes as the thumb exits the ball, the wrist rotates the (RH)hand counterclockwise where the fingers release the ball.

It would be kinda like turning a dial, where you grip the dial with the pads of your fingers and turn it by rotating your wrist.

See this is what I have a problem with though. If I only lift with the pads then I'm lifting end over end, no side rotation. I don't know how else to rotate counter clockwise unless I'm doing it with the sides of my finger tips.

So it's ok to rotate with the wrist? People confuse me when they say rotate with the fingers.

[Ball99999]

Bowl99999 do you live in the area of Los Angeles,CA? If you do,I would be glad to help you.

Zothen

No but I wish I did lol. I really appreciate the offer I'd take you up if I could. I can't believe how much of a problem I'm having with side rotation.

[billf]

So many threads with the same discussion. If you rotate the middle and ring fingers the wrist will naturally rotate. If you try to purposely rotate the wrist and not the fingers the ball will spin but will not generate any usable revs. Rotating the wrist from facing up, as in the down swing, to facing towards you, as done in the handshake drill, produces the axis angle but does not produce any revs. It only dictates the axis direction that the revs the fingers produce. So if you properly rotate the fingers fast enough (revs) and far enough for the wrist to naturally rotate (axis rotation) you can control both the rev rate and the axis rotation.

This is so much easier to show in person. BTW, the sides of my fingers are calloused from the side rotation I generate. That's one of the reason I learned to play the inside of the ball, to save my fingers. By playing the inside part of the ball you start with the ball weight on the sides and end on the pads. The other way you start on the pads and end on the sides.

Any of that make any sense? To me it does but I also know what I'm trying to say so I have an advantage.

[Zothen]

Bowl9999 I would ask your pro shop if they could show you. It's difficult to explain without showing how to release and I think you will benefit more by someone showing you,then keep trying to explain it. I learned by someone showing me how to throw a finger tip ball,now the ball rotation comes naturally.

Zothen

[Zothen]

AngeloPD-4 should be fine! Do you normally bowl at Jewel City in Glendale or are you in the San Fenando Valley(Northridge,Mission Hills,etc)?

Zothen

[AngeloPD]

AngeloPD-4 should be fine! Do you normally bowl at Jewel City in Glendale or are you in the San Fenando Valley(Northridge,Mission Hills,etc)?

Zothen

Hey Zothen, i pm'd you

[rab91787]

BTW, the sides of my fingers are calloused from the side rotation I generate. That's one of the reason I learned to play the inside of the ball, to save my fingers. By playing the inside part of the ball you start with the ball weight on the sides and end on the pads. The other way you start on the pads and end on the sides.

This is what I would like to figure out. So to go from sides to pads, you start with the weight on the left side of your fingers with pads facing right and then finish with pads up? Wouldn't you still need to push fingers past 12 o clock anyway or no?