Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Standing farther back has totally messed me up

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Oz
    Posts
    622
    Chats: 100

    Default Standing farther back has totally messed me up

    Standing on the far back set of dots has reeeally screwed me up. It didn't dawn on me until late tonight that it completely changes the angle played. But when I go back to the close set of dots I now feel very constricted. I am all over the place. Speed still low, can't release right, grrr...

  2. #2
    Cranker eugene02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Singapore, Tampines
    Posts
    900
    Chats: 131

    Default

    usually when i want more speed I stand further back a little.. i use my 4 steps as a push away speed for my arm to release the ball.. not sure how to say it though....
    I am a proud member of Bowlingboards.com bowling Forums.

    In the Bag:
    DV8: Hell Raiser Revenge, Diva
    Columbia300: White Dot Black Berry Polyester
    Brunswick: NeXXus f(P+R)
    Substitute Balls:
    Storm: Sure Fire
    Ebonite: Pursuit
    Retired:
    Lane 1: MaxXx Curve
    Current High Score / Series: 237 / 635
    Style: Power Tweener
    Average Score: 180

    Aim for Balls:
    Misfit Pearl
    Marauder
    Brutal Nightmare

    TONIGHT WE BOWL! DV8 DAMN GOOD BOWLING

  3. #3
    Bowling Guru
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    3,603
    Chats: 13

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ball99999 View Post
    Standing on the far back set of dots has reeeally screwed me up. It didn't dawn on me until late tonight that it completely changes the angle played. But when I go back to the close set of dots I now feel very constricted. I am all over the place. Speed still low, can't release right, grrr...
    It should be pretty simple to figure out the change in angle, or rather where you should stand to keep the same angle. Suppose your target is the 2nd arrow and you release the ball over the 15th board. NOTE: this is probably not the board that you stand on at the start of your approach. Since the arrows are 15' down lane, the ball is moving out one board for every 3' it goes down the lane. The dots on the approach are about 3' apart, so where ever you were standing at the close dots, you need to move one board in when you start at the far back set. Dick Ritger's system explains this very clearly, even accounting for your feet drifting.

    Just remember you can isolate some parts of your approach, like the release, and practice them until they become second nature. Then when you make a change like moving back, it is not going to screw up every thing
    John

  4. #4
    Pin Crusher Tampabaybob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Seffner, FL
    Posts
    1,241
    Chats: 0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ball99999 View Post
    Standing on the far back set of dots has reeeally screwed me up. It didn't dawn on me until late tonight that it completely changes the angle played. But when I go back to the close set of dots I now feel very constricted. I am all over the place. Speed still low, can't release right, grrr...
    Ok, why the move back ? Was it because you were leaving ten pins and how far back did you go? If you make a move backwards (i.e.; and shoot the same spots it shouldn't have any effect on your angles. All you're doing, or should be doing is lengthening a couple of your steps. Is it making you feel like you're running, taking giant steps or what's happening. Lets try and fix this for you. I'll be on line all weekend, except for a few hours tomorrow when I'm coaching the kids.

    Bob

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Oz
    Posts
    622
    Chats: 100

    Default

    Thank you.
    It's because my speed is so slow. I have had an extremely hard time getting ball speed. I don't get why it's so easy for others.
    I've tried running.. I've tried slow first step or so and then run the next steps.. I've tried slow.. I've even tried throwing the ball.
    I need to practice and record it soon.

  6. #6
    Bowling God billf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Sidney, Ohio
    Posts
    5,982
    Blog Entries
    1
    Chats: 217

    Default

    One thing that isn't talked about often but has a huge affect on ball speed it; being fluid. Most of us aren't very fluid but the ones who are get great speed with no effort. Like most things in bowling, the harder you try to do something, the less of that something you get.
    USBC SILVER CERTIFIED COACH
    Gold Coach Candidate
    Owner/Operator of Bowlerz Score Coaching
    Tweener Rev Rate of 420, Speed 19 mph
    Key Bowling Staff Member
    Key Bowling Coaching Staff

    IBPSIA member
    Former Staff Bowler at www.BowlerX.com

  7. #7
    Pin Crusher Tampabaybob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Seffner, FL
    Posts
    1,241
    Chats: 0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ball99999 View Post
    Thank you.
    It's because my speed is so slow. I have had an extremely hard time getting ball speed. I don't get why it's so easy for others.
    I've tried running.. I've tried slow first step or so and then run the next steps.. I've tried slow.. I've even tried throwing the ball.
    I need to practice and record it soon.
    How high is the ball when you start ? Waist level, higher or lower ? Lowering should get the ball into a higher back swing and help increase the ball speed somewhat.

    If you have a video camera or know someone that does, & they would be willing to spend an hour with you to get some shots it'd really be helpful for us to actually see what's going on. Trying to visualize through the use of words is pretty tough. The other possibility is to ask one of the higher average bowlers at your home center for advice, or the pro at the local proshop. Most will usually be more than willing to help you out. If theres no one available to ask for help try the video and upload it.

    Bob

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •