Understanding ball strength

[Ball99999]

I throw the ball pretty slow unfortunately, between 12-13mph sometimes 15mph. Sometimes I have good shots but mostly lately I've been missing left of the head pin.

I have a Modern Marvel and DV8 Misfit. It seems like they lose their energy and roll out too quickly so I'm thinking that I underestimate the level of oil they need, or my speed is just too low. What do you think?

[striker12]

well it could be your throwing to slow but at 15mph it should get down the lane good and get close to its break point.

but the other thing that could be is the oil is shorter like for ex: 'you are use to bowling on 39in oil with say 20-25units'. but this time you where on 34in with 15units like that kinda thing it could be same units but the length could be different.

but also you might be on a dry line where there is not much oil not fully sure it could be any of those maby something else.

[Ball99999]

Yeah I'd imagine so :/ I've seen it much oilier
It did feel short too.

[striker12]

yeah the thing i found out that works best on short patterns in find a nice oiled line up the right side and use a urathane/entry lvl ball cause on shorter patterns its harder to play threw middle cause your ball will come out of it sooners then probly you normaly play on and it will prevent you for getting your ball all the way out to where u wanted to like say the 5board form standing on 35 thats jsut a ex

[Tampabaybob]

Uh, what about your accuracy ? You didn't mention that you were hitting your spot perfectly on those shots that went left of the pocket. First thing I'd say is, you're potentially lifting your eyes off of your spot a "micro-second before release" and your hand, "WILL ALWAYS' follow your eyes.

Before you start floating around between shots, make absolutely sure you are nailing that target. If you can throw the ball and come back off of the approach and say the "exact" spot you hit, then you can safely start to move your feet and target out on the lane. Also try to follow the ball all the way down the lane. See where the ball begins it's transition and where the actual break point is. Adjust from there.

Accuracy, first, make sure you're nailing it, then make your moves.

Bob

[billf]

Bob and Striker are correct. One other thing though; there is a huge difference between 12 & 15mph. If you're hitting the pocket at 13.6 (example only) then you can't expect to change nothing else and hit the pocket a 12.0. The effect speed will have is determined by oil, rev rate, etc. If everything else is the same but you just don't have the speed that day to stay at 15 consistently, then move left 3 boards and adjust from there.

[edpup316]

Tampabaybob is RIGHT ON THE MONEY! When the people i bowl with ask me who many boards they should move the first question i ask them is "Did you hit your mark?" most the time the answer is no. You cant make adjustments off of bad shots, it will more then likely just get worse.

[Tampabaybob]

Tampabaybob is RIGHT ON THE MONEY! When the people i bowl with ask me who many boards they should move the first question i ask them is "Did you hit your mark?" most the time the answer is no. You cant make adjustments off of bad shots, it will more then likely just get worse.

BINGO !! Most people will absolutely swear that they hit their target because they "THOUGHT" they had seen the ball rollover it, but that split/micro second prior to release the eyes come off and they look towards the pocket. That split second is all it takes to pull a shot. We all do it and no matter how many years you've been bowling or how good you average it still happens from time to time.

Bob

[billf]

I've been catching myself lately looking closer to the foul line. I start targeting the arrows but end up looking about 5' closer. Strange but it's been working so I haven't messed with it. Wes Malott looks at the foul line so I figure I can look a little further out than him lol

[Tampabaybob]

Yeah, one of the lady Pros also watches the foul line dots. It really looks strange seeing that but it helps them get their ball down sooner and get it into an earlier roll.

Ball9999....You know, I'm wondering....both of those balls are pretty aggressive and I'd like to know what you're shooting for a typical starting shot. Are you deep inside (3rd arrow) or are you outside of two ? With the slower speed, aggressiveness of the equipment, that is definitely going to give you problems. If you have any balls that might be less aggressive and you're shooting outside, try one of those balls. It might be that the oil is going away in the mid lane ( just past the arrows to the first hash marks ) and the ball is hooking up too early. The other thing you could try is to take one of the balls into the pro shop and ask him to polish it up for you. That should help get it to slide a little further before it hooks up. It'll store up the energy it's expending early and give you more back end. You may have to still move left, but the ball won't roll out on you.

Try it and let us know.

Bob