I seem to have a problem

[martinezsam2495]

Ok, well I don't know why but suddenly my ball has started to roll on the thumb hole you can hear it,
and I have been getting undesirable results....
How do I fix this?

[bowl1820]

Given if the same ball didn't do it before, then you've changed your release somehow. A lot of different things that can cause you to roll over the thumb. Most of them are caused by your hand/wrist position at release.

So go check what your doing with your hand now versus what you were doing.

[EboniteKid299]

I've been having this problem lately as well, and I have been working on it by trying to keep my hand much more under the ball on the approach rather than on the side of it and trying to keep it under all the way through until the release I got a lot more side roll that way and now just have to work on consistently with it

[billf]

Whatever you changed in your release changed your axis tilt which changes your PAP. Most of the time tilt is adjusted by when and where the thumb comes out. Are you still no-thumbing it?

[martinezsam2495]

Whatever you changed in your release changed your axis tilt which changes your PAP. Most of the time tilt is adjusted by when and where the thumb comes out. Are you still no-thumbing it?

yeah I'm no thumbing it, but this barely started happening on Tuesday, and I can't seem to figure out why..
So when I'm inserting my fingers I tried rotating the ball in different ways to stop it, but the fix was only temporarily. It started to do it once again..
I have a video of me bowling already, I just need to upload it, it's at school

[martinezsam2495]

I've been having this problem lately as well, and I have been working on it by trying to keep my hand much more under the ball on the approach rather than on the side of it and trying to keep it under all the way through until the release I got a lot more side roll that way and now just have to work on consistently with it

That makes much more senese!
Now that I think about it, I have been putting the ball on the side before I release...
Wow
thanks so much
I'm going to try it today,

[MisterSinister]

That's interesting. I don't use my thumb, and I've never had an issue. Most of my balls now have an offset thumb, kind of like Belmo's balls, but that's for balance, not because I was rolling over the hole. Even when I use a ball drilled with a standardf thumb location I don't have an issuse. I come way off to the side of the ball.

[billf]

Most thumbless bowlers come way of to the side during the release. Sounds like Sam may have been getting onto the side well before the release and thereby coming well past the side on release.