Lol now my ball speed is too high.

[Mike White]

well 1 thing i need to ask from the 2 different bowling allies are the lanes different like is 1 wood and 1 the other one(can not figure out how to spell)

You found a word you know you don't know how to spell..

That's amazing considering the quantity of words you don't know you don't know how to spell.

[UBowling]

Your ball speed is mostly dictated by your feet. If you start with your ball lower in your stance, your feet have less time to get through the approach before your arm is ready to release the ball so your feet speed up to accommodate and now you have more momentum and more ball speed. The higher in the stance you go, the more time your feet have and the slower they go. Same with moving forward and back with your feet on the approach. The longer the distance the bigger the steps and the faster your momentum is.

You want to get a good ball speed/rpm matchup. If you are 16 mph at the pins, that is about 20 at release and you should be around 400 or so rpm to have a good match. If you are more around 300 rpm the ball won't hook much. If you are around 500 rpm, the ball will hook a ton.

[Ball99999]

My speed before was horribly low, like 13mph. After giving up on speed, I worked on having a really free swing and somehow my body changed how I bowl fundamentally and voila higher speed. I love the kinetic energy but my revs suck now

[AZBowla]

My speed before was horribly low, like 13mph. After giving up on speed, I worked on having a really free swing and somehow my body changed how I bowl fundamentally and voila higher speed. I love the kinetic energy but my revs suck now

This is where I'm at right now, my speed at the pins is about 13 mph versus the 14-16 I was getting with my old ball. I'm going to try a few things to get the speed up now that I have no problems releasing the new ball and getting rev's. Glad I opted to go with a lighter ball for my spare ball so that I can get a couple more MPH out of it once I learn to get my speed up.

[Ball99999]

Your ball speed is mostly dictated by your feet. If you start with your ball lower in your stance, your feet have less time to get through the approach before your arm is ready to release the ball so your feet speed up to accommodate and now you have more momentum and more ball speed. The higher in the stance you go, the more time your feet have and the slower they go. Same with moving forward and back with your feet on the approach. The longer the distance the bigger the steps and the faster your momentum is.

You want to get a good ball speed/rpm matchup. If you are 16 mph at the pins, that is about 20 at release and you should be around 400 or so rpm to have a good match. If you are more around 300 rpm the ball won't hook much. If you are around 500 rpm, the ball will hook a ton.

I have found this to be a case of different for everyone. The lower I hold the ball/pushaway the slower the ball speed.

I need to figure out how to get revs up.

[75lockwood]

I have found this to be a case of different for everyone. The lower I hold the ball/pushaway the slower the ball speed.

I need to figure out how to get revs up.

Cup + Cock is the easiest method of increasing revs, pro's tend to "unload" there wrist to increase rev's further (not recommended, very advanced)

[billf]

if you want to slow down a bit but keep the same free swing motion, start your ball from a lower rest point, instead of holding at chest height before push away, try waist height.

This is an incorrect, old school teaching. Follow the link that should explain why better than I can. Zothan should read this too so I can stop reading about the "push away" lol

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/...inskifeb09.pdf

[Ball99999]

This is an incorrect, old school teaching. Follow the link that should explain why better than I can. Zothan should read this too so I can stop reading about the "push away" lol

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/...inskifeb09.pdf

It's not incorrect it's just that it's different for different people. I wonder if people starting the ball earlier are pushing the armswing back with their arm?
Anyway when I start higher it goes faster, start lower it goes slower.

[Ball99999]

Cup + Cock is the easiest method of increasing revs, pro's tend to "unload" there wrist to increase rev's further (not recommended, very advanced)

I can't seem to hold my hand sideways to cock it.. when I cup it I get stuck in the ball so I'm not used to it yet. Trying with no ball is different than doing it with a 15 lb ball.

[billf]

It's not incorrect it's just that it's different for different people. I wonder if people starting the ball earlier are pushing the armswing back with their arm?
Anyway when I start higher it goes faster, start lower it goes slower.

It is incorrect. If done correctly. But as usual there are three certified coaches on this site that have stated the same thing yet it's the novice bowlers that keep saying we are wrong. Evidently instead of wasting our time and money learning the SCIENCE behind the bowling and bowler we should have just asked people without a clue.