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    I have to say after reading up and seeing how the "pros" do it, I can now tell when I do something bad. I threw one in the gutter on Monday and I knew exactly what I did. I guess just the fact of being more aware of what I am doing helps. And I agree with the taping thing too. I would have to go by myself and do it, cause my wife would think I am crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottymoney View Post
    Glad I picked out something correct, thanks for backing me up Bill. Now if I could just figure out what I am doing wrong. Might be time to video tape myself for you guys to tear apart.
    Scotty.......we promise we won't tear it (YOU) apart !! LOL And if you want to bring your wife along to help video tape you bowling, that's ok, just mute the audio part of the tape so we don't hear her laughing !!!!! LOL AGAIN !

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    Bob throwing the zingers! Her and I went today and I was happy to try some new tips out that I wanted to. She bowled well as it was her first time in well over a year to throw a ball. It was a bit tough with our 18 month old son running around trying to keep him from running onto the lanes. So I wasn't able to focus well. I am going to put my thoughts on here and see if anyone has other things for me to try and maybe my tips will help someone else.

    1. move closer to the foul line. A no brainer but I finally decided to fix that. an extra foot closer makes a difference.

    2. Holding the majority of the ball weight in the offhand up until the backswing. I could not get used to holding all the weight as it seemed to mess up my motion with the weight transfer. I think I got it down to hold about 75% of the weight. It did help and it also got me in better position for the third thing I did.

    3. The balance arm thumb down and facing out toward the pins. I have no clue how this works but wow what a difference. It kept me so much more balanced and I was able to be much more consistent.

    All together I felt much more consistent when I used all these tips. Now just to translate it to league night Tomorrow!

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    Good luck translating it after one day. 1) Lots of people stop 1'-3' before the foul line. Why give your opponent this extra advantage? The heads burn up quick and this only adds to the problem.
    2) Ball weight transfer. It's a personal thing but does help, especially for stamina reasons. The transfer also helps get the hinge moving right into the swing, smooth and free.
    3) I love this part. We all know balance is important and how important a good swing is. By properly using our balance arm (and leg) it allows the core to stay stable. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It allows us to provide more torque through momentum without muscle and helps align the torso properly. This is actually the key to my game. My arm gets lazy, my reaction and carry go down.

    If you can bowl while watching a baby then focusing during league shouldn't be an issue. I practice a lot with birthday parties to help with focus and patience.
    Do you slide? Are you a cranker?
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    I will definitely be able to focus more in league. especially without the annoying loud music they had going at this different lane than I normally bowl at.
    I do slide a bit, probably not as much as a normal slider would.
    As far as style I am still not sure where I land.
    Was able to figure out my ball speed today, the machine said between 18-20mph
    I do not throw very many revs, at least I don't think I do.
    I normally stand around 15 with my left foot and throw 10.
    So I guess you tell me, what am I characterized as?

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    After going and reading about them I would say I am a stroker with a high backswing, but it is less of a backswing as I moved toward the follow line and am not waiting to release the ball as long.

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    Stroker. Nothing wrong with it. Crankers plant and aim in a general area. Strokers slide, some more than others, and target a specific board. The only issue with a high back swing is if any part of it is muscled. If not, if you truly are that flexible (some are) then that's fine. If not, then you need to learn how to take the muscle away, completely away, at the top and before the down swing starts. Very, very few people can do this. Your ball speed is nice. Revs are over rated so don't worry about them too much.
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    I think the high backswing came from my longer approach. Where I held onto the ball longer as I still had some more approach to cover. I believe when I moved up on the approach to start to get rid of the 1-2 feet i had extra I believe I used a bit less backswing. Now that I think about it, I am not sure. Will pay attention tomorrow and see what I do. I don't really have much muscle in my swing. I know I throw it fast enough so I don't try to put anything extra into it. And I am finding when I try to put revs on the ball I end up throwing bad shots, so I am done with revs.
    As far as aiming I definitely aim 2nd arrow, and when I hit my mark it is usually an X on the screen. I just tend to pull my release left or right and miss my mark.

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    Sounds like you're definitely headed in the right direction. The balance arm, used as you said earlier, should really help keep the release consistent. I know I get upset with myself when I miss by a board never mind when I miss by ten or more. That's usually when the arm gets lazy and I'm usually the last to notice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottymoney View Post
    I think the high backswing came from my longer approach. Where I held onto the ball longer as I still had some more approach to cover. I believe when I moved up on the approach to start to get rid of the 1-2 feet i had extra I believe I used a bit less backswing. Now that I think about it, I am not sure. Will pay attention tomorrow and see what I do. I don't really have much muscle in my swing. I know I throw it fast enough so I don't try to put anything extra into it. And I am finding when I try to put revs on the ball I end up throwing bad shots, so I am done with revs.
    As far as aiming I definitely aim 2nd arrow, and when I hit my mark it is usually an X on the screen. I just tend to pull my release left or right and miss my mark.
    You'll miss your mark if you're lifting your eyes off of your target a split second before releasing the ball. When you get set on the approach, get your feet lined up and from the time you look at your spot, "do not blink your eyes" until AFTER you release the ball. Takes a little getting used to but you'll find that just by blinking during your approach you're much more likely to miss your target. VERY important to watch the ball roll over your target on every shot. You can't hit, what you don't see.

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