Lucid angle into the pocket adjustment needed HELP!!

[MICHAEL]

Prepped with a 4000-grit smooth matte finish, the Lucid can be easily adjusted to fit anyone's game. Polish it up to get it through the choppiest heads or scuff it with a surface pad to better read the midlane… the choice is yours! The new Lucid by Storm - it clearly sets itself apart from the competition!
Ok my question is my lucid has the out of box finish mentioned above! I have not been able to use it at either of my bowing establishments, Both AMF’s, but with different oil machines. On league night the ball goes down the lanes great, but hooks, ( LEFT, and HIGH on the HEAD PIN, IF not left of it )! If I wanted a more controlled gradual hook, what type of surface should I go 2??
I know about moving left, but I wind up not getting that great angle into the pocket that has given me my 700 scores? I hate to not use this new ball, I have a feeling if I can get the surface adjusted, I might have a formidable weapon, that not only looks good going into the pocket, but SMEELS, as sweet as it looks!!

I have a complete set of Pads/polish/ ect ect!! How do I take that radical kick out of it, and make that last few feet more controlled! I like rev’s I get, and the look of the ball as it goes down the lane very much, but it just has that last few feet of huge hook! I have had with my DV8 Marauder, 3 700 series here lately, and I found out it has a different core. Could it be that symmetrical cores are more suited to my type of bowling? Is the answer simply that I should bowl with the symmetrical type balls like the Marauder? I bowl the Walter Ray delivery style? Stand right, shoot just outside the second arrow.

[75lockwood]

Michael,

Balls with Asymmetric are always going to have more kick in the back end than those without, you can lessen this by using a weaker layout or by altering the surface, but they have always been known for the "hockey stick" ball path. Can you refresh my memory as to the other balls you use? (besides Marauder and Lucid) Given that the lucid is such a high performance ball, its going to hook and hook hard.

as for the lane conditions, just because it didn't work at 2 different AMF centers doesn't really mean anything, both could be using a light or medium oil volume in which the lucid was not meet for. i recommend talking one of the allys to request that you try the ball on a very heavy oil pattern, this will prove if you simply are bowling on lanes the ball was not meant for.

changing the surface can help, but i don't know enough about this topic to recommend anything

[MICHAEL]

Thanks for your thoughts! I only bowl at the two AMF's here in kansas city! I bowl on 4 leagues now, and will have the same oil from now till the end of my bowling. SOOOOOO ,,, I now have this great NEW BOWLING (starting, and aiming position), and want to work my balls around what I have. I had NO IDEA how well this new system was going to work out, 3 700 series with the Marauder.

I want to take that SHARP edge off the ball right at the end of its journey into the pocket. I don’t want to redrill the ball, so I would like to know if through adjusting surface I can even out that hook! Polish/sanding ect?

The Marauder is my 700 series ball! It is the only ball that has given me that look that works!

[75lockwood]

Thanks for your thoughts! I only bowl at the two AMF's here in kansas city! I bowl on 4 leagues now, and will have the same oil from now till the end of my bowling. SOOOOOO ,,, I now have this great NEW BOWLING (starting, and aiming position), and want to work my balls around what I have. I had NO IDEA how well this new system was going to work out, 3 700 series with the Marauder.

I want to take that SHARP edge off the ball right at the end of its journey into the pocket. I don’t want to redrill the ball, so I would like to know if through adjusting surface I can even out that hook! Polish/sanding ect?

The Marauder is my 700 series ball! It is the only ball that has given me that look that works!

Well, the lucid is a WAY stronger ball than the marauder, and is going to hook more. why did you make such a huge jump in performance?

anyway, maybe someone else can key on on what might work to take some of the edge off in terms of a surface change. how about this, instead of changing the ball, freeze the lanes with your icy powers to reduce the friction!

[Zothen]

I would suggest polish as this will cut hook down. BTW how is the ball drilled? You can try moving 2 boards to the left and try throwing over 10-12 and play the tighter line.

Asymmetric cores work best for me on Sport patterns where I need the hook and symmetrical cores work best for me on THS where I don't need a big hook. Their are times thou where I will use symmetric for Sport patterns and asymmetric for THS. My speed is 17-18mph(Incl +2 to speed gun)and have about 250 revs.

Zothen

[The German Shepherd]

Hi Michael. I would add a light coat of polish to her and see what she does. Mine makes a hard move just like you re describing, but I feel fine moving left and letting it wind up some revs in the heavier oil before hitting the break point. If you don't want to move your feet/target, I would try polish next.

Jay

[MICHAEL]

thanks for all the advice,,, I just did the polish, and BOY DOES it look SWEET!! Will let you know how it all works out tomorrow in league! Moving is not a bad idea, I have tried it, but really like that angle I get with the Maurader standing more right, then left! Thanks again!

[kmf]

Polish it. A 2 and 1 adjustment would work but you seem to not want to do that.

[billf]

Hey stubborn, old man, polish that dang ball. You're the surface pro so just do it.
Why so stubborn on the moving?

[Bahshay]

Your original post is about how its too uncontrollable at the break point. For that reason, polishing it is a terrible idea. You will be able to stay further right like you wish, but the ball will become even more violent off the spot.

To control the breakpoint, you will need to add MORE surface to the ball, not less. Of course, this will force you to slide even more to the left. By the sound of it, you really like your Marauder on the conditions you are bowling on, so I think your best option is to keep using that and save your Lucid for different conditions when the Marauder isn't quite making it around the corner.

Its worth noting, if you don't like a sharp break point, the Lucid probably isn't the best ball choice