looking for a new ball, Are motiv's any good?

[H3RBSKI]

Hey, been bowling for around a year now with second hand equipment. currently using a Hammer onyx vibe and a Tropical storm. Both are drilled finger tip but they are rather battered (i clean them after every session)
been looking at new balls and currently im torn between:
Hammer - Swagger (LOVE the back end reaction)
Motiv - primal
Motiv - 2 cruel

i love the reaction of the hammer and i bowl on heavy oil lanes but the ball (epscially in the uk) is hard to come by now.
I love the design of the motiv balls (im a sucker for graphics) and the 2 ive mentioned seem to have good reactions.

just wondered if anybody has any experience with these balls at all? or any reccomendations? will try and get a vid of my bowling style up soon which may help your suggestions.
any help is great guys as i know virtually nothing at the moment.
Thanks in advance guys

[Perrin]

I don't have personal experience with them but my local Proshop is really impressed with their balls. They have recommended them based on performance and durability. I went with ordering a DV8 misfit instead of the motiv ascent solid though.

Good luck with whichever way you choose to go

[noeymc]

ubowling on here has one there balls and as far i know he likes it

[H3RBSKI]

just a reply with my form and release on fresh oil standard house pattern. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXc9B...=youtube_gdata

this is how i used to bowl (this shot was a bone dry lane) <object width="1280" height="720"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"></param><param name="movie" value="http://www.facebook.com/v/1907176678696"></param><embed src="http://www.facebook.com/v/1907176678696" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="1" width="1280" height="720"></embed></object>

do you think my form has improved at all?

[billf]

Every time you post it will show as a new post when members log on so there isn't any real need to post the same thing on multiple threads.

Now to this question. I like Motiv. I use DV8 at the moment but wouldn't rule out Motiv. Their balls have as good a reaction as anybody and the graphics are cool. As for back end reaction; when you got to the pro shop to have it drilled, make sure they find your PAP and tell them as best as you can what you want the ball to do and on what lane conditions. A great ball drilled poorly makes a poor ball.

[H3RBSKI]

Yeah sorry about that I posted this here first to see if it would help people suggest balls for my style. Then I noticed the videos section sorry. And no worries I will do, that would explain why my hammer barely hooks as the pin is dead centre under my finger holes with no offset yet my tropical storm is rather offset. I get much more reaction out of the storm with much less effort.