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[Perrin]

When people with 170 averages bowl 240's..that's just a bit of a disadvantage to a scratch bowler..

True enough but the scratch bowler will have the advantage when the 170 guy proceeds to throws a couple 130's showing why he has a 170 average instead of 200

[swingset]

When people with 170 averages bowl 240's..that's just a bit of a disadvantage to a scratch bowler..

Actually it's not a disadvantage overall. You can't have a 170 average and bowl very many 240 games unless the bulk of your games are 170 or lower. Meaning that the scratch bowler will rightly beat the 170 the vast majority of times.

Do you care about the battle, or the war?

[billf]

What happens when that 170 bowler rolls a 240 yet I still go above my average for a 270? He still loses. Most people have as many great games above their average as below it while the majority of games will be within +/- 10. Getting beat by a lower average bowler who throws well above average has never bothered me, as long as I roll a good game.
I compete against myself. That's what I can control and all I worry about. It doesn't matter whom I'm bowling against, I can't control their game very much.

We also set our line-ups so the guys going against each other are the closest in average. At times that means each of us is giving 20+ pins per game but better than one not giving any while another is giving 60.

[ssclary]

Speaking of a 170 bowler. That is my league average going into tonight.

What did I do...

Bowled my highest game, highest average and highest series ever.

215-246-222=683

Then add into 26 pin handicap per game.

241-272-248=761

I heard sandbaggers commits from the other team. It was nice to now that I try the same every week but tonight it all came together. Would have been hard to beat for most anyone.

[remix]

Congrats ssclary!

Billf - I agree with you. I bowl mainly for myself. I am always trying to bowl the absolute best game I can. If everyone on my team bowls well we win. If not, and I performed well, I go home satisfied.

[got_a_300]

Way to go congrats ssclary on a having a great night!!!

When someone from another team comes up to me and
asks if we won our game I'll just look at them and say I
have no ideal as I do not worry about keeping an eye on
the score. I just concentrate on my on game and what I'm
doing out there on the lanes and then at the end of the
night I'll look to see how we did team wise.

If the person I'm bowling against has a large handicap and
they bowl well I just congratulate them on a job well done
wither I beat them or not. I'm not there to try and beat any
one down and make them feel like less of a bowler I'm just
there to do and bowl the best I can.

If they have a high handicap and if they beat me scratch so
be it nothing to get all upset about I imagine we all started
out with high handicaps ourselves at one time or another and
had great nights where we beat the other person scratch.

[billf]

My Monday night team, men's handicap league, is named Bowlerz Score coaching. If I (or Derrick) see a high handicap bowler doing something simple to fix, we will offer to tell them. I even coach some of them. So yes, they usually bowl over average. Our job is to also bowl over average. This is a sport, a hobby. This isn't life or death. So as a decent human being, shouldn't we help others with their game when we can? Bowling our best is all we can do while realizing our best today may be different than what our best is tomorrow.

[wimsical]

I don't have any problem with handicap, all it does is even out the playing field a bit for the players that aren't quite as good. The better players still get a slight edge, but the lower average players get a chance when they play good. My last league was handicap, most of our games were exciting affairs, we had average handicap, more than some, less than others. It was fun. The best scratch team ended up second, in my experience the highest scratch teams always end up pretty high.