Should THS bowlers get less credit then sport or PBA pattern bowlers?

[UBowling]

Should a bowler who averages high on a THS get credit?
Yes.
Should they get as much credit as bowlers who average higher on Sport patterns?
No.

Everyone who averages high on a THS can be good on sport conditions as well, but they have to learn and adapt and be able to adjust. If someone is just a typical house bowler their whole life and never try to be good on sport conditions, I don't think they should get nearly as much credit as the bowler who is taking the time to make the effort to be good on every condition, easy or tough.

[UBowling]

For example, we have a local bowler. He averages anywhere from 220 - 240 depending on the house and THS he is bowling on. Throws a lot of honor scores. But he doesn't get a ton of credit of being a great bowler because every time he bowls a tournament on something tougher than a THS, he struggles. He hardly makes cuts on sport shots at all and can't score nearly as high as his peers. However, he averages higher than those same guys on the THS.

[Davec13]

For example, we have a local bowler. He averages anywhere from 220 - 240 depending on the house and THS he is bowling on. Throws a lot of honor scores. But he doesn't get a ton of credit of being a great bowler because every time he bowls a tournament on something tougher than a THS, he struggles. He hardly makes cuts on sport shots at all and can't score nearly as high as his peers. However, he averages higher than those same guys on the THS.

I know a few house only bowlers like that. Average high 220 at one house only. You take them out of their comfort zone and they fall apart barely breaking 140. It's always funny at the end of season association tourney watching them struggle. The talk a big game during league, but when the time comes for them to show up for some money they can't find anything, and it's always the lanes fault.

[Flyer41]

This just reminded me of a story this thread kinda describes. My uncle runs the oil machine at my home alley, and he told me a story of a guy that would always brag about how good he is and that the guys on tour aren't any better than him and he could average 220 on anything. So what he did one league night was he put flat oil across the pair that this guy was bowling on just to prove a point. Prior to that night he averaged 223, that night he shot 390. I felt bad for the others on that pair that had to bowl on it, but my uncle said the moral of the story is to never **** off the guy running the lane machine.

[unclemantis]

This just reminded me of a story this thread kinda describes. My uncle runs the oil machine at my home alley, and he told me a story of a guy that would always brag about how good he is and that the guys on tour aren't any better than him and he could average 220 on anything. So what he did one league night was he put flat oil across the pair that this guy was bowling on just to prove a point. Prior to that night he averaged 223, that night he shot 390. I felt bad for the others on that pair that had to bowl on it, but my uncle said the moral of the story is to never **** off the guy running the lane machine.

I bet the people bowling a straight ball did not notice

[TheSheibs]

I think anyone who bowls above their average deserves credit for bowling a great game. I had a new ball drilled and an older guy who averages well into the 200s, told me a great thing. Here it is: He said he can go up to a guy who claims to be able to bowl strikes every frame, and make a bet with him that he will not bowl a strike on a specific frame. Majority of the time the person won't bowl a strike on that frame. You can have the most perfect approach, arm swing, release, hit your mark every time, but miss a strike because of the pin action.

So it comes down to being lucky with the pin action. It doesn't matter what the pattern is as long as you hit the pocket. But once you release the ball, you have no control over it at all. It is going to do what it is and there is nothing that can be done about. Also if people bowling on sport or PBA patterns think a THS is easy. Why aren't they bowling 300s every time they bowl on THS??? Everyone deserves credit for what they bowl regardless of the pattern. After all, bowling is not the easiest sport out there. And if it was easy, everyone would be bowling for money.

[Hammer]

I agree with you TheSheibs, everyone deserves credit for the conditions that they bowl on. Even if it is THS conditions it took that person
the time it takes to bowl well and to get to know what equipment he needs and know how to use it to get a high average. So now can we say that guys that bowl PBA conditions can look down on bowlers that bowl on sport conditions? I think this is the wrong thing to do.
Everyone should get credit for the condition they bowl good on. We all have our areas that we are good in. Anyway some people can't afford to bowl on the sport or PBA patterns so they are happy where they are at. Like what was said earlier if THS bowling is that easy then why doesn't everyone that bowls there have a high average? I know people that were on our league for years and have a 115 average and never got better. So THS alleys don't mean a high average for everyone that bowls there. You have to be dedicated to be good in whatever you want to be good at.

[hoppy1605]

Thats what it is all about! If you can go out and have fun, and compete with friends there is nothing better!

[hoppy1605]

lol!!!