"Stroker" advice?

[aussiedave]

Dave, in answer to your question, it does sound like you're a stroker and I would sugesst you try changing your hand position. The more yo hold your thumb towards the 3:00 position, you'll see a different track ( from a different roll) on the ball. Also if you can learn to cup the ball with your wrist that may add some revs as well. Bill's suggestion with the index finger is a good one. I started doing that this year and it's helped with my accuracy and pin carry.

John Anderson.....check your statement on definitions of a cranker and a stroker. You've got them reversed.

An interesting comment about the index finger - by keeping it spread, you also keep your speed up as well. I haven't ever tried to cup at all, might give it a go next Sunday practice.
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[J Anderson]

John Anderson.....check your statement on definitions of a cranker and a stroker. You've got them reversed.

The text that was in my post, at least the part in quotation marks, was copied from a post by a different J. Anderson from 2010. I thought that his definition had some merit, and deserved to be repeated if only to make us think.

Personally when I think of model strokers, Brian Voss and Steve Jaros come to mind. To represent the crankers, Mark Roth, ( I think the term was coined to describe his style), and Amletto Monicello would be the standards.

I also don't usually waste my time trying to label myself or other bowlers. I know some of the basic principles of good bowling, like balance, timing, angle to the pocket, etc. and try to adapt them to my own style and to the emerging styles of the kids that I coach.

[Greenday]

I also don't usually waste my time trying to label myself or other bowlers. I know some of the basic principles of good bowling, like balance, timing, angle to the pocket, etc. and try to adapt them to my own style and to the emerging styles of the kids that I coach.

I don't mind the labels because in the end, it doesn't mean much. Whether you are a stroker, tweener or cranker, you can't be successful if you aren't accurate, precise, and confident. If you can't adapt your style to the lane, you won't do well.

[Tampabaybob]

The text that was in my post, at least the part in quotation marks, was copied from a post by a different J. Anderson from 2010. I thought that his definition had some merit, and deserved to be repeated if only to make us think.

Personally when I think of model strokers, Brian Voss and Steve Jaros come to mind. To represent the crankers, Mark Roth, ( I think the term was coined to describe his style), and Amletto Monicello would be the standards.

I also don't usually waste my time trying to label myself or other bowlers. I know some of the basic principles of good bowling, like balance, timing, angle to the pocket, etc. and try to adapt them to my own style and to the emerging styles of the kids that I coach.

When I read the first post, I had to read it again, because I didn't think that's what it said. No foul, just wanted to set the record straight.

As far as Art's question, in my experience most bowlers would fall into the stroker category. The younger generation that has all the speed in the world now would fall into the cranker segment. The twiner category is a fairly new phrase I've only seen used the last few years. It basically puts bowlers below the cranker stage but above the stroker stage. I think it's us old strokers that try to stay up with the kids and put more oooompf on the ball. LOL

[GeoLes]

May I add another question not related to the original thread???

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