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    I usually stand at 30 and throw over 18 and the backend kicks hard and rolls straight into the pocket.

    Well last night at a medium to heavy oil house where I normally bowl I stood where I normally stand but this time the ball just didn't grip at all. After a game or two I finally settled on 20 and over 10. I started striking again and again but more often than none I was leaving splits or corner pins or the 5.

    After research and looking at my past lane numbers that I have bowled on I determined that the lane had not been roiled. I have been bowling on post league. This one time I was bowling on 100 percent open bowling with plastic balls.

    Note to everyone. If you want to practice be sure you are practicing on lanes that are being used by others that are using reactive balls and not plastic. I feel I would have better practice in preparation for tournaments this way.

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    I was bowling on lane 8. The lames are oiled at 4 PM before the night leagues. Lanes 25 through 60 are used for League play.

    I use a Hammer Nail Smoke and Fire. Any suggestions on getting more grip on nights like this?
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    If you bowl on a freshly oiled pattern when you're the only one bowling and burning up your line, will that help you prepare for tournaments?

    In order to become a good bowler, you need to adjust to the conditions. Weather (temp/humidity), previous bowlers, machine malfunction, will effect the pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemantis View Post
    I was bowling on lane 8. The lames are oiled at 4 PM before the night leagues. Lanes 25 through 60 are used for League play.

    I use a Hammer Nail Smoke and Fire. Any suggestions on getting more grip on nights like this?
    This is a crazy idea, but how about Move/Adjust?
    - Ed

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    I'd say just put it into your mental bank on adjustments you can make. One of the worst things you can do in go into a house thinking, "This is my line I have to play." Go in with an open mind and start where you think it will be playable. If it isn't there however, make adjustments quickly. It shouldn't take a whole game or two to find the pocket. I like to think of that as the definition of beating your head against a wall.

    In regards to tournament practice, just getting on as many different conditions as possible would be my advice. If you always practice on the same broken down pattern, you will never learn the quirks of any fresh patterns or other types of shots.
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    Move right throw ball straighter. Avoiding lanes will get you nowhere. Especially since you will never know what has been done on the lanes.

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    there are dry patterns out there so bowling on are heavy med light dry are all good no matter how the lanes are you should be able to bowl well on them u just gotta make adjs also it will be easier once u have more then 1 ball cuz u can ball up or ball down but your bowling ball is a light oil ball if i am not mistaken if i am my bad but back to the point i am trying to make if there is a lot of oil on lane then ur ball prob wont hook as much try this one day throw ur ball down the middle arrow and see how much it hooks thats where the most oil is on a ths watch and see how much your ball hooks so if the lanes are dry your ball is going to either over hook burn out before it hits the pocket these are the 2 i can think of off the top of my head atm so playing on different amounts of oil is going to make you better like me i bowl my best on a med ths but the lanes = i bowl at use a heavy oil ths mostly cuz the owner likes to throw his heavy oil balls =D but yeah so..

    dry = a lot of hook
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    I always teach to start from your normal position (which you did) and then start adjusting (which you did). The problem you encountered is always going to be a factor when you're bowling on un-oiled lanes. As one thread stated, move far right. Most of the "casual bowlers will attempt to throw straight down the middle. The outside, except for the early gutter balls should leave you a cleaner shot. Next time you encounter this, move way outside and "try" to shoot the 3-4 board target. It takes a little practice, just trust the ball. If that's too much oil, move your target (not your feet) left and just point the ball into the pocket. As the oil goes away there, then you can move left or right again.
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    I am digging all this help! Thank you!
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    What do you all think of this ball for an addition to my arsenal?

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    In the Bag: Hammer Nail, Smoke and Fire #13 RG (2.53) Diff (.055) - Bowling a 189 Game
    Open Average: 171 High Open Game: 226
    Tweener; Deep; Medium Loft; Low Backswing ; Speed: 12 MPH

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