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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemantis View Post
    What do you all think of this ball for an addition to my arsenal?

    http://hammerbowling.com/products/pr...l/first_blood/
    I can give you some inside on this ball because it was used "AGAINST ME" last week. Yeah, the ball hash't been released yet !! The guy I was shooting against brought this ball out in the last game. I didn't pay any attention to it, but one of the younger guys on the team noticed it and asked him about it. Come to find out he's on the Hammer advisory board and gets balls sent to him before they're released. Now, he's a lefty, and also averages 230+. His typical shot as it is with most leftys is pretty much straight down the boards from 2nd arrow out with a little swing area at the end. This ball was a moister. It appears to be a skid/flip ball so it's going to hook late. Did I say hook? I meant take a 90 degree turn !! If that's what you're looking for go for it. I think it's supposed to be released on Feb 5th. By the way, I beat him that game with a 247 But the ball seems to be very aggressive.
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    Typical of any polished ball, skid through the oil, building up energy, then when it hits the dry area, it's going to take off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemantis View Post
    What do you all think of this ball for an addition to my arsenal?

    http://hammerbowling.com/products/pr...l/first_blood/
    I would wait until you bowl in a league for awhile to know what you need, even if you need anything. I can use the same ball on all my regular leagues and the leagues I sub in. I just have to play different lines and release the ball differently.
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    Sooooo. Keep on practicing?
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    Yeah, keep practicing, but sign up for a league as well. The league will give you experience, competition and you'll map a bunch of new friends. You'll also be able to learn a lot about how lanes transition during league or tournament play and how you need to adjust. It'll also be an indication of what type of equipment you'll need for those different conditions. Many leagues also need substitutes so don't hesitate stopping in and asking the league secretary if anyone needs a sub. Good way to get some experience and it only costs you the membership fee for your USBC card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tampabaybob View Post
    Yeah, keep practicing, but sign up for a league as well. The league will give you experience, competition and you'll map a bunch of new friends. You'll also be able to learn a lot about how lanes transition during league or tournament play and how you need to adjust. It'll also be an indication of what type of equipment you'll need for those different conditions. Many leagues also need substitutes so don't hesitate stopping in and asking the league secretary if anyone needs a sub. Good way to get some experience and it only costs you the membership fee for your USBC card.
    So bring my gear down and ask if a sub is needed and if so great, If not then just pack up my stuff and go home or just watch?

    Do I pay the dues for that week or is that the job of the member that I am subbing in for?
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    Lots of tools at your disposal to try: Play down and in from further outside. Slow ball speed down to give more time to grip. Try cupped release to get earlier roll. I have found the if play a straight ball with completely neurtal release down the first mark, it tends to graviate towards the 1/3 pocket. I practice variations in delivery in practice sessions so I am more reliable trying them when it counts. They have come in handy from time to time. Last time my C-System slid past the pocket, I eased up on delivery speed - Stepped forward a tad, slowed down approach, just let the ball roll out of my hand. Bingo!!!

    If all else fails, do a "Norm Duke" and play a backup ball from the left side
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    No the league member is responsible for paying all fees. You do have to purchase a membership for the USBC, and that's a one time charge per year. However if you were to join now that membership would be good til Sep of 2014. When you sub you bowl for free !! How bout that ? Many guys I know straggle in to the lanes, just to see if anyone needs a sub, just so they can get some free practice. Some leagues have sub lists with many available and some leagues you actually become a member on that team and therefore can only bowl for that team. So you always want to ask as well. There are some situations, and my team had one this year, where one of our guy's was hospitalized and we needed a sub. Unfortunately our regular guy was in such bad shape (in the hospital for 4 months) he won't be back at all this year. But he still paid up all of his money's while he was out and then the sub took over paying when we found out he wouldn't be back. This way both individuals will share in the prize money at the end of the year.
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    It all depends on the league. Our league leaves the sub thing up to the team. Some teams have the sub pay and some don't. Our team kept it simple and you pay if you are there or not. Mainly it comes down to prize money and it is so much easier to pay it our 4 ways than to figure out 5 ways when one guy bowled just a few games compared to the rest. In the end, you just need to ask. Without asking around, nobody is going to tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tampabaybob
    No the league member is responsible for paying all fees.

    It is common, but NOT always the case. It's usually up to the team who pays. Being a team captain, I don't make my subs pay. But I also belong on another team where they make their subs pay. They can either request to make the sub pay for the total weekly league fees, or only the lineage fees, which is the cost the house charges for the league bowler to bowl 3 games. For example, if the weekly league fees are $25, and the lineage fee is $10, then the sub will only pay $10. The regular bowler will still pay the $15 for the prize fund.
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