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    Quote Originally Posted by Zothen View Post
    First Blood is on same line as the Columbia VOW which is Medium oil. For heavy oil I would suggest Roto Grip Defiant/Edge or Soul,Storm Sync,vivid or Lucid,Brunswick Aura/Paranormal or neXus line,900 Global Train,Freight Train or Bullet Train,DV8 Nightmare,Motive Raptor Talon,Ebonite Challenge or Champion? Thats all I can think of at moment!

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    I have both balls, (Vow and First Blood). The First Blood will handle heavier volumes just fine. I can throw mine (First Blood) on medium volumes, but it really does seem to excel on the fresh, at least for me. I haveno problem saying I consider the First Blood to be a heavy oil ball. It may not be as strong as a Nightmare on heavy patterns, but it will definately work very well on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    You use your Raw Hammer for Medium to Low oil? That should be medium to heavy. When's the last time you removed the oil and resurfaced the ball?
    My Jacked Raw Hammer has a different pin placement than my other two balls and because it was my first ball when I first started throwing fingertip, its drilled to go long and walk back into the pocket. It doesn't have a big hook or back end. You can see the pic in my Twitter header background: http://twitter.com/SmilingBowler
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilingBowler
    My Jacked Raw Hammer has a different pin placement than my other two balls and because it was my first ball when I first started throwing fingertip, its drilled to go long and walk back into the pocket. It doesn't have a big hook or back end. You can see the pic in my Twitter header background: http://twitter.com/SmilingBowler
    At 1000 grit, it should read the lanes early. You might just have to play a straighter shot with it's layout. Also experiment with slower speed. All my bowling balls have the same layout, RICO, but the various surfaces will dictate what lane condition I use it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzifus View Post
    I have both balls, (Vow and First Blood). The First Blood will handle heavier volumes just fine. I can throw mine (First Blood) on medium volumes, but it really does seem to excel on the fresh, at least for me. I haveno problem saying I consider the First Blood to be a heavy oil ball. It may not be as strong as a Nightmare on heavy patterns, but it will definately work very well on them.
    I have the brutal nightmare and I love it. works very well on heavy oil. for me at least :-) amazing backend!!

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    I really love my Black Widow on Medium-Heavy when my Innovate doesn't clear the whole dec. I could've switched out my Innovate at any point tonight and maybe shot better, but I stayed humble and confided in my Innovate tonight. If I'd picked up a handful of my open simple spares (I was a little off tonight in that department) I could've beat my Wednesday Night Mixed League series average and maybe raised my season average a pin or two. But, I'm happy I bowled better than Monday Night. Enough said. (: .)
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    I would pull out the Disturbed and put the Defiant Soul in it's place. The Disturbed is the replacement to the Critical Theory which is a medium to heavy oil ball. The Defiant Soul is for heavy oil. I am getting 1 for Nationals.

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    If you are going to get an Ebonite ball, get the Champion, it is the best ball in their lineup and the only one that might be better in heavy oil is the Exceed. I have never heard good things about the Mission X and I didn't like it.

    The Roto Grip Disturbed is a monster! Would be a great heavy oil ball. The Sync would also be a great choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilingBowler View Post
    The only ball I'd add to my gear at this point (aside from a spare ball, which I may still consider) is a ball for heavier oil. Not just heavier, though... I'm talking when the oil is wide, covered upto 45+ feet and may be pushed down by the pins from other bowlers. I currently throw my EBONITE Innovate for medium oil, my Hammer Black Widow for medium to heavy oil and my Jacked Raw HAMMER for medium to low oil. The Innovate is my newest ball and I'm still learning what its capable of, but considering I'm going to States in May, I am seeking one more ball to fill my arsenal.

    Here are the three I have my eye on, in order of Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price:

    Hammer First Blood (MSRP $289.99)
    http://www.bowlingball.com/products/...rst-Blood.html

    Ebonite Mission X (MSRP $249.99)
    http://www.bowlingball.com/products/...Mission-X.html

    Roto Grip Disturbed (MSRP $199.99)
    http://www.bowlingball.com/products/...Disturbed.html

    Any comments you have on any of the above, or if you have any other suggestions for Heavier Oil, please reply.
    Thanks a lot. Happy Bowling. Cheers!
    Well, most of the suggestions given to you are good. Have you heard or seen Seismic Equipment? They have serious stuff for heavy oil. Take a look at their website www.seismicbowling.com
    Take a special look at the Raging Bull Stampede. That ball was given the highest score ever in Bowling This Month for traction in oil. I've had mine now for 3 months with over 50 games and still going strong. I've been playing with Seismic for 3 years now and they have some of the best core/cover combo. I've bowled with Storm and Ebonite they do have good equipment but Storm's high end equipment apart from the Lucid and Sync have died out quickly, lots of my customers noticed that.

    If you need help finding a proshop that carries Seismic, give me a shout.

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    Thanks for your suggestion ymiller.

    I rely on the advice of my local pro shop, who recommended the three balls I listed, as they have them in stock or can order them, get them in and drilled to my specs within a few days. I have a long-term relationship with the guys at my local pro shop and honor their advice. I do appreciate your suggestion, however and will ask them about your SEISMIC line. Maybe they'll be interested in stocking your equipment. They just started carrying DV8 and MOTIV over the last year as well, so they are always looking to expand. How long has SEISMIC been around?
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