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    How are you doing? My name is Adam and i live in Mesa, AZ. I was the guy who made and posted that funny Norm duke video that me and my cousin made a while back, if you haven't seen it, here's a link to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZVbR2EdAQ By the way my bowling coach Josh Blanchard showed the video to Norm and he told me he was "laughing the entire time", so that was cool to hear.

    I just wanted to introduce myself. Truthfully I need advice as i've been in a bad bad slump. I think i'll post it on the bowling technique section.

    But my problem is recurring and I get so frustrated I want to quit sometimes. I've had two lessons from Blanchard, and one virtual lesson from Rich Shockley and they all tell me the same thing. But I'll get into that later in the technique section.

    I would like to tell everyone my big issue and just get an overall analysis of my approach. I'm extremely inconsistent. I bowled my first 300 game a month ago and i thought I was finally starting to "get it", now i feel it was just a fluke.

    I've been reading this board a long time for tips but have never posted (well exept for the duke video). There are a lot of good bowlers and coaches on here, and i really hope I can get and even try to give a little advice. Thank you guys. Let me know the best way to present my inconsistency issues (what board to post to and whatnot).

    My biggest issue is that I decelerate, come up towards the bottom of my swing, straighten up my leg and generally stop! this puts so much pressure on my left hip, putting on the brakes like this.

    I just can't seem to get over it. I'm almost ready to quit. Well here's a link to my virtual lesson with shockley. Any tips or just general feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C56fLwo2ns



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    I am no pro. But I think if you can keep your hand behind the ball like Shockley points out it can help correct some of the other issues. By keeping your hand behind the ball it will help keep your strength behind the ball so you wont have to put your shoulder and back into your throw, which would help keep you from coming up at the end of your swing. By turning your hand at the end its putting all the force on your fingers to get that ball moving. If you can keep your hand behind the ball you now have your full hand and arm getting that ball down the lane.

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    Thank you moderator for cleaning up my first post lol. And thank you Big Ern for the advice. I'll keep checking in on this regularly. Hope I can get even more help.

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    "My biggest issue is that I decelerate, come up towards the bottom of my swing, straighten up my leg and generally stop! this puts so much pressure on my left hip, putting on the brakes like this."

    I'm trying to figure out if your foot stopping early is causing you to pop up or if the hip is straightening as a reflex action. Does this part of your approach hurt?

    My first suggestion is to make your left foot slide more. If you have high-end bowling shoes with detachable soles go to a slipperier sole. If not you can try brushing the sole back toward the heel for more slide or getting one of those slide socks that goes over the shoe.

    The second step it to strengthen the hip and work on keeping it flexible. You might as well work on your right hip at the same time so you don't wind up walking funny.

    Another thing to try would be to practice some games with just a one step approach. You'll start a little more than one step back from the line in your normal set up position. Push the ball out and let it fall into the swing. You'll probably need to flex your knees a bit as the ball is swinging back, and when the ball reaches the top of the back swing take that last step and slide. With only one step there will be less stress on the hip and you should be able to focus on keeping down.
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    This was easier than usual, thank you for posting the lesson plan.
    One thing that will help keep your head down, slide slightly further without taking away any power is; your balance arm. It's too high as it passes your body. This changes your center of gravity taking away some of the knee bend and knee continuation. Take that arm down and behind you as you accelerate from the release through the follow through.

    Shortening step 1 while increasing steps 2 and 3 will greatly improve your timing and balance. Good luck and hope the pain goes away soon!
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    Where is your left hip hurting exactly? The front of your hip or the back? Or the side? If it's in the crease between your leg and torso in the front it could be a hip flexor. Try working on stretching the hip flexors after a warm up of course. Search for hip flexor stretches on youtube here's an easy one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKdmbk076ZI

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    To J. Anderson: I think it's a reflex action, and it does hurt a ton when i'm bowling. I think it started when i was fouling a lot as a junior bowler. I think it's a way for me to not cross that foul line. I've tried to slicker sole (s10) I use s8. It makes me feel like I 'm gonna slip all over the place. I could try it again though. I might try a practice game with just a one step approach. Trying to stay down. Thank you for the feedback.

    to billf: I never knew my left balance arm was too hight around the release. I will try to keep it lower and see if it helps my balance and popping up. This is the first time I heard this so thank you for the feedback. I've gone from a five to a four step to elimate that huge first step. It's helped me a lot. Shot my 300 with a four. And you're welcome for posting the virtual vid. I felt it would be the easiest to watch since it has slow mo and stuff.

    to bunny: my hip hurts me right on the side of my left hip, so definitely not a hip flexor. When my hip is hurting I bowl terrible. When it's not I bowl great. It's something in my technique that I just end up going back to over and over

    Thanks for the advice guys, i'll work on all of these. If anybody else has any more advice i'd love it.

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    Perhaps the next time you are at the lanes, practice your swing without your ball and work on increasing your slide. A couple of months ago, I had severe pain in my right hip (I'm left handed), that would hurt for at least one to two days after bowling. I realized that my slide mas minimal/non-existent and was the cause of my hip pain. After realizing this, I went to the lanes and practiced sliding for at least 3-5 minutes before I started to bowl. I kept doing this drill until I could comfortably slide each time. I have not had any pain in my hip for well over two months. I did buy a brass shoe brush to get a bit more slide from my sliding sole, which seemed to help as well.
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    I dont see anything in the video that would cause you harm. Form is pretty good. I sometimes have knee pain because they are weak. You can do what I do that works pretty well. Just walk slower. It will reduce the load force on the hip.

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