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    I've decided to add a spare ball this season, I feel I missed way to many trying to make the Misfit do what its not intended to do, go straight. While Ive been considering the TZone I threw my friends last night, he has regular house style drilling, throws straight and is a steady 150 bowler. But I couldnt seem to keep the ball from hooking, while it didnt snap like the Misfit does but Im afraid I may hook the ball to deep and defeat the purpose of having a spare ball, your thoughts Please
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    the tzone wont hook at all unless the lane are bone dry then it will hook but best way to throw a spare ball is taking alot of hand out of the ball and just letting it come off your hand with out cocking you wrist at all i got a colimba 300 WD as my spare ball and i mostly use it to hit the 6pin 10pin and 7 pin and 4 pin thats it all the other pins i put abit of a hook into it.


    say i was going for the 2pin and 9pin i would throw my columbia 300 freeze witch hooks but i would release it off my hand as if it was my spare ball it will make it go straighter but still have alittle hook on the backend to take both pins out and anything on the elft side of the lane i just hooka t those and barly miss mostly the 5pin i miss by over hooking.
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    Get yourself a polyester/plastic ball and you will no longer have to worry about the ball hooking when you dont want it to. You will see your average increase as you will make more spares.

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    No matter the brand the spare ball is, it'll still work for the same purpose.
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    Id just keep polishing it and change you release so you come up behind the ball and not rotating at the hand(if that makes any sense)

    house balls usually hook more than someone who owns their own plastic, the reason being polish
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    My coach/house pro would say, "You don't need a spare ball. Spare balls were invented so people would buy more balls...but they are useless. Whatever ball you get strikes with, you can pick up any spare with."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    My coach/house pro would say, "You don't need a spare ball. Spare balls were invented so people would buy more balls...but they are useless. Whatever ball you get strikes with, you can pick up any spare with."
    Since the pros don't usually buy their own balls, why would they use a spare ball unless it gives them more opportunity to make more spares. More spares = more pin count = more money.

    Sorry, but I think your coach is way off base for today's game...but that's my opinion. I wouldn't be without a spare ball, at least for corner pins if not all spares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    My coach/house pro would say, "You don't need a spare ball. Spare balls were invented so people would buy more balls...but they are useless. Whatever ball you get strikes with, you can pick up any spare with."
    yeah think of this so any bowler can hit a spare with there strike ball...even a 2 handed bowler or a bowler who only throw it with there fingers no thumb but what about the high rev bowlers its kinda hard for a bowler to not throw a ball with rev on it so with a spare ball you can rev it and it wont hook.

    i'm just saying but your coach is a idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Since the pros don't usually buy their own balls, why would they use a spare ball unless it gives them more opportunity to make more spares. More spares = more pin count = more money.
    Pros carry 5-9 different balls to each tournament. They have different balls for different oil patterns. I was speaking more for the "house" player. A house player shouldn't need more than one ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Sorry, but I think your coach is way off base for today's game...but that's my opinion. I wouldn't be without a spare ball, at least for corner pins if not all spares.
    I'm not as good as you, but I can pick up corner spares with the same ball I throw for strikes. The ONLY time I go to my urethane ball is if I have a really tricky (if not impossible) split that I need to hit the pin on the left side (I'm right handed). In that case, I throw the conventional grip 14lb urethane to try and hit that pin on the left side, because I can't have any flare whatsoever. That being said, I "can" throw my strike ball straight by simply not rotating my hand. So "technically" I shouldn't even need the urethane ball for even those situations.

    But, I do agree with you in that if someone has a high-end super hook ball...that works great on heavy oil...then yeah, trying to pick up a 10-pin spare on drier lanes...gonna be more difficult. But "theoretically"...you should still be able to straighten it out by not rotating your wrist..."in theory". If I ever win this contest for a new "decent" ball...I could test that out (hint hint website Gods).
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker12 View Post
    yeah think of this so any bowler can hit a spare with there strike ball...even a 2 handed bowler or a bowler who only throw it with there fingers no thumb but what about the high rev bowlers its kinda hard for a bowler to not throw a ball with rev on it so with a spare ball you can rev it and it wont hook.

    i'm just saying but your coach is a idiot
    I guess in today's game, like you mentioned...you have a lot of high rev, big hook, 2-handed players...and I guess they'd have trouble without a "spare ball". I was talking about (and I guess the pro was as well) your typical, amateur, house player. Your strokers and your tweeners. Sometimes these players use "spare balls" just because they're too lazy to develop the skill to throw their "strike ball" differently to pick up spares.

    But I do agree with you and granny that if we're talking crankers or players with big hook/high rev/high oil balls...I guess I could see where a "spare ball" is valuable.
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