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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoLes View Post
    I have experimented with step one push off and found that I was holding the ball in swing. When I push off on step three, I don't have enough time for proper bend and backswing in step 4. when I went back to step 2 pushoff, everything felt in good balance with an effortless swing. For me, its step, push step, step, slide.
    George, that's as I said, no two bowlers are alike, and if works for you, stay there, improve on it, and make it work for you. Look at some of the old timers, like Don Carter and Ray Bluth. Can you imagine telling those guys that they should change their approach? Don't think so. You'll make small
    adjustments to your game as you improve, whether its your approach, swing plane, or any of the other hundred or so things that you can do. Just be comfortable.
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    Very true. I discoverd that I could use different timing when I was experimenting with various types of foul line drills for pushoff and release. I started in final lunge position focusing on release; then I pushed right into slide position; then step-slide; then step-step slide. All just to see what my body was doing with different timing.

    As Michael Jackson sang in "Off The Wall".

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    And then you watch the pros (like during the PBA Bear Open last night) switch from 5-3 and back again because the ball return cover was in the way. Years and years and years of practice to pull that off well, I am sure!

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    Donna, I watched that also. That is one heck of an oil pattern ! Beware of the BEAR. I'm sure Chris Barnes won't be too anxious to shoot that pattern anytime soon. And when he does shoot it again, he'll probably practiced 500 games or more on it to figure it out. Belmo's tough though and with the rev's he puts on the ball, when he's on, he's tough to beat on any condition.
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    I had never seen Belmo bowl before (remember, I'm relatively new at being addicted to the sport) but I was just in sheer awe at the number of revs!!! I've seen a few guys at the alley try and pull off the two handed thing and while they get tons of revs their ball is all over the place. They have absolutely no hope of accuracy and their spare game isn't more than a crap shoot and hope the ball comes close. They try to be all power and really have nothing to show for it other than low scoring games (of the ones I've seen lucky to break 200) and are exhausted.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled 5 step thread - sorry for temporarily hijacking it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLP View Post
    I had never seen Belmo bowl before (remember, I'm relatively new at being addicted to the sport) but I was just in sheer awe at the number of revs!!! I've seen a few guys at the alley try and pull off the two handed thing and while they get tons of revs their ball is all over the place. They have absolutely no hope of accuracy and their spare game isn't more than a crap shoot and hope the ball comes close. They try to be all power and really have nothing to show for it other than low scoring games (of the ones I've seen lucky to break 200) and are exhausted.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled 5 step thread - sorry for temporarily hijacking it
    Yeah, Belmo is one in a million. He's the type of guy I never wanted to run into when I had a PBA card or other tournaments. The guy is a killer with the amount of revs he puts on a ball AND he's accurate as hell. Funny when he was telling how he started two handed.....at 18 months old ???? Wow that's early !!
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    Hehe....I can remember the first time I read about a two-handed pro bowler, and the first thing I pictured in my head was someone standing at the line and throwing it granny style between his legs .

    Then I saw the video and was immediately impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampe View Post
    Hehe....I can remember the first time I read about a two-handed pro bowler, and the first thing I pictured in my head was someone standing at the line and throwing it granny style between his legs .

    Then I saw the video and was immediately impressed.

    A few weeks back there was a group of high schoolers bowling two lanes up from us. The one guy could not under any circumstances bowl anything that did not land in the gutter. He did a "why the heck not", threw the ball granny style between the legs and landed a strike. He was able to repeat it a few frames later. There is nothing like watching a group of young men then play the rest of their game out throwing granny because they want to one up their buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tampabaybob View Post
    Yeah, Belmo is one in a million. He's the type of guy I never wanted to run into when I had a PBA card or other tournaments. The guy is a killer with the amount of revs he puts on a ball AND he's accurate as hell. Funny when he was telling how he started two handed.....at 18 months old ???? Wow that's early !!
    Got a whiff of something when he said that, guess it would depend on ones definition of 'bowling'
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    JP..... Nothing meant by that remark, just that many parents choose to start their kids at an early age. My Mom and Dad were bowlers long before I was born and the earliest I can remember having a ball in my hands, I was about 4 years old. Now at that time, the only bowling available in our region was Duckpins and that's what both parents were bowling at the time, so that's where they started with me. It wasn't until 1959, when a ten pin house was built in or area that it started to take off. From that time we switched over to ten pins. I can remember when I was in the Air Force in Japan, taking a picture of my oldest son, standing at a ball rack on the approach getting ready to trow a ball and he was about 1 year old at the time. Come to think about it, that may have been the only time I took a picture of hime bowling. I do remember years later, seeing that photo on the wall of a friends office, a manager of a center in town. She had seen the photo and had a copy made and hung it on the wall of her office.
    Anyway, some do start very early !
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