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    I just wish people would quit whining 'bout those who smoke! I use to smoke, but quit. I believe that it was the best thing I ever did, but it doesn't bother me when people do. I bowl at three different house's and only one allows smoking. I think that the only thing a smoking ban does is cost people their business's I agree that it's bad for the health of those that do, but I don't think that gives anybody the right to take that choice just to satisfy their disgust of it. How's about we ban makeup as I believe that when you apply makeup it can't be good for your skin by applying something that clog's up your pores!! I think it should be the choice of the owner of the business weather they want to go non-smoking or not. That way smokers can bowl where they allow smoking and non-smokers can bowl where they don't! But some will never be happy till they have their way!! These are people who believe it's their way or no way at all!!!

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    I agree that smoking is a choice but should be considered with great caution when it will negatively effect those around you. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% against laws that protect you from yourself, I feel they are a waste of legislation time and the freedom of the people. I do disagree with smoking indoors though.

    I live in MN where just a year and a half ago the state went 100% smokefree in all indoor workplaces. The facts are in and solid. They did testing on workers in bowling alleys restaurants and bars where smokign was allowed and the workers there who didn't smoke had high levels of the chemicals found in smoking in their blood. They survey'd the same people one year after the smoking ban and it had almost completely removed the chemicals from their bodies. Smoking bans help save lives!

    For those of you who believe smoking bans cause people to lose your businesses, I challenge you to do research on this and cite specific bars and states where smoking bans have caused them to lose their business. I'm willing to bet that in each (if any) case you find there are other underlying factors that have caused them to lose their business. California and many other state who implemented smoke free workplace legislation have shown a short decrease in bar revenue, but within 6 months the numbers have returned to their normal level, if not increased. In MN many bars have closed since the advent of the smoking ban, but if you look at the economy, the smoking ban came at the same time as the economy started to fall out. The economy and people moving towards a more freugal life style closed the bars, not the smokers inability to smoke indoors.

    If you havent' figured it out by now, I work very closely with the "freedom to breathe" MN's smoking ban. Before you jump on my back, I feel its necessary to disclose that I am a smoker. I've been smoking for years, and it hasn't bothered me.

    I'm all on board with those of you who are saying, its a fact and deal with it...change isn't always a bad thing, if you don't like what your legislators are doing, write them and tell them! They won't know how you feel unless you tell them!

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    My parents bar HAD lost business because of the ban. We're right on the Illinois/Wisconsin border...and there's no smoking ban in place in Wisconsin right now. So instead of staying in Illinois to drink, people here having been driving 15 mins across the border into Wisconsin where they can drink and smoke indoors. Loss of business probably didn't effect too many other people, but because of our close proximity to a state without a ban, yeah it did effect us.

    Now, after the hype has died down...people are coming back to our bar and staying in Illinois. They've gotten used to the ban, and many bars (ours included) have added beer gardens for smokers to sit outside and drink in during the warmer months. I've been both a smoker and a non smoker...and the ban doesn't bother me at all. I really do enjoy the fact that I don't have to breathe smoke 24/7 while I'm at bowling.

    What has me miffed now are the exorbitant taxes they're putting on cigarettes. The whole thing is asinine and socialist. If you want people to quit smoking....make smoking cessation aids cheaper, and let people make their own decision. Instead, they raise the taxes...in a time when people don't have much money to begin with...in a pathetic attempt to force people to stop smoking. To me, that isn't a very "American" thing to do. Now they're talking about raising the federal tax by another dollar. Honestly, where will this socialist behavior stop? Next thing you know, they'll be taxing the hell out of fast food...because that's bad for you.

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    No government should have the power to stop a business from allowing smoking in their place of business. Next thing you know, they will want to tell us what we can and cannot do in our own home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebowler View Post
    No government should have the power to stop a business from allowing smoking in their place of business. Next thing you know, they will want to tell us what we can and cannot do in our own home.
    I think they may have done this already in California and New York
    I believe New York has, or is in the process of raising taxes on fast food.
    And California is also banning black cars.
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    I am a smoker and here in North Carolina, after the 1st of the year, we will no longer be able to smoke ANYWHERE that food is served...and this includes the alleys. I am not looking forward to that, as I feel it is discriminatory towards smokers. It's bad enough we have to put up with constant tax hikes on cigarette prices...now they want to take it out on us even more so by banning smoking anywhere that serves food or has a recreational value. Granted, I can go several hours in between...but it's still discriminatory if you ask me. That's why they created such things as NON SMOKING sections. That can be done in recreational places such as the bowling alley's also...as a matter of fact, in Greensboro (where I'm at) there is a bowling alley that has 2 non smoking sections...and you have to specify if you want a smoking or non smoking lane when you ask for a lane. And what really makes me mad...I'm in NORTH CAROLINA! The heart of the tobacco belt! I honestly think that alot of places will lose business b/c of the stupidity and discriminatory nature of this law!!!

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    Here in the uk no-smooking has been in place for over a year and everyone has got use to it, it did make a differece at first with numbers down in the bar and even bowing but now it is picking up again, the only thing now all the smookers rush outside at the end of a game for a quick "fix" before playing the next game, this can be annoying when you are trying to keep your concertration during a match.

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    You'll get used to it. I'm actually glad to hear that since we go to Winston-Salem every year and it will be nice to be in a non smoking bolwing center. We live in Florida where its been that way for years now.
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    I quit smoking a month ago, so it really hasn't effected me. It's actually been quite pleasant having the lanes smoke free.

    I do feel bad for the smokers though....Some leagues are really tough on them when they try to run out for a smoke in between when they're up
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