Whats the highest individual and team handicap youve seen?

[e-tank]

This isnt normally something i pay attention to too much but this last sunday the team we played had a team handicap of 450 and a high individual handicap of 146

I thought it was pretty crazy. What about you guys?

[DLP]

If the team was made of people who stink like me... you better believe its possible

[Perrin]

never seen 146 but if you were doing 90-100% of 250 I could see that happening.

[classygranny]

On my Friday morning league we do 100% of 230. We have several "handicapped" gents that average below 100, so if their average was say 84, they would have a 146 handicap. We do have a team that I know we give about 250-300 pins a game to, so I see it being possible. Especially if the handicap is based on 240 or more.

[e-tank]

If the team was made of people who stink like me... you better believe its possible

yea they were pretty bad. Theyre new bowlers though and both teams had fun

never seen 146 but if you were doing 90-100% of 250 I could see that happening.

we do 90% of 210. Her avg is 46 with a high game of 64

[Hampe]

Wow.....the handicap for most leagues or tournaments here is 60% of 200, and capped at 40.

[Tampabaybob]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

[classygranny]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

I love my Friday morning league, although a lot of the bowlers are older and/or handicapped and carry lower averages. It is 100% handicap and believe me - if you are a decent bowler you have to stay focused and on your game to win. Rather than slacking off because you are around a few lower averages, you have to compete harder - in my opinion. There are enough higher average bowlers as well, that you also have to compete against so it actually tends to be a very competitive league for me.

[JPbowl]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

Yep, this is where a minimum average rule is useful, For a senior citizen or kids 'fun time' leagues its fine not to have a minimum.
But when you get into a league where its relatively competitive, if you can't average 150 than you should re-think which league your going to join.
It's way to easy to have a new bowler come in with a 80 avg and end up dominating the league and still only end on a 140 avg.

'It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top'
I'll have to check your data, my experience yields the opposite result. even the past 2 years our 36wk league has been won by handcap (players avg 130-180)

[e-tank]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

It doesnt bother me too much as this isnt a super serious league and the whole point of it is to go to vegas at the end. Theres still some very good teams in the league though. I can see your point and i have done it to teams in the past where ill have a higher handicap and somehow avg 240 for the night scratch