the ball felt, and rolled great!! I will never go back to conventional grip! TOO many advantages, in my opinion, to not drill a ball with this amazing grip!
I just hope that other drillers are doing the system justice! I know here in Kansas City Missouri we have two that can get the job done!!!
Had some carry problems at first, 205, 268, and 214! I had some problems with what looked like nice pocket shoots, but 7 pin and 10 pin carry! ( especially the first game!! The good news is I picked up all the 10 pins, and only missed one 7 pin. I should not have missed that 7 pin, being right handed!!! but for a first outing the Tribal, worked great!! I will post a picture!
I was surprised at the amount of flip when I would go outside with it!! Its going to be my new go to ball for a while!!
Can't wait to see what it can do!!
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That is an interesting picture.
The thumb appears to be off-set to the right of center. Most of the threads I have read talk about the thumb being off-set left for right handed baowlers.
One of the reasons I ruled this out is clipping of the thumb hole already so moving the hole left would not be an option for me. But if the hole were moved right that may after-all work for me.... hmmmm Food for thought I guess. noone local does this yet (closest listed on the website is hours away)
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Now two peoples hands are the exact same just because the thumb seems more to the right or left dont mean much it has to do with the person it was drilled for.
I talked to my driller about the Tri-Grip and he told me that this is nothing new it has been around for years that this is just a new packaging on the fitting technique. and while he doesnt have the "Bill Hall" tri grip he uses a mixture of this technique and others.
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The thumb in never intentionally centered in any grip. If it ends up being that way it is just coincidental. It all depends on the bowlers hand. Everybody's middle finger is longer than their ring finger but not always by the same amount.
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2013, 11:22:25 PM »
I can assure you that the Tri-Grip is not "merely" a CLT but is far from it. Many have tried to copy the Tri-Grip with the CLT method and have not been successful. Unless you understand the linear lines of the tendons of the hand that is based off of kinesiology that is explained in the video then no you cannot copy it.
If you have your specs and go to another shop then yes that other shop can copy it if they know the technique.
There has been many players that have compared the Tri-Grip with the CLT method and have found that the balance and feel of the grip is completely different from each other. If you want to do your own comparison then I completely encourage it by finding a shop near you that has the Tri-Grip method.
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The thumb hole is offset to the Left, amoung other things, including different angles and pitches! ICEMAN has NO, connection with Bill Hall, my uncle! Just because he came over for Christmas and gave me several dozen bowling balls, doesn't mean that I feel in ANY WAY, beholding to him!!
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I thought it was offset right. Nope…maybe it was left. I can't remember.
I got about 530 games since I started recording games. I figure roughly 430 games on the Frantic. So by the time I get to 700 games total…I should have over 600 on the Frantic. It's already showing signs of chipping. I was hoping it would last a full year…but I think once I hit 700 total games…it'll be time to retire it and have a new back-up ball drilled; 16lb Brunswick Slingshot. And I think when I do, I'll have Mike W. tri-grip drill it. If I don't "love" it…it's just a back-up ball. I pick up most spares with my strike ball so it's no big loss if I don't like it. And if it does add some revs as Iceman says…it'll help make that rather "weak" Slingshot into a useable low-moderate oil ball.
That is…if Mikey W. is still alive…I haven't heard much from his camp lately.
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