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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    Ok I used the ball with the Tri-Grip Friday night for the first time that scores mattered.

    A little background on where my bowling has been lately. I've been so busy, I haven't had a chance to practice, so I've been bowling like crap for the first month of my league. My average was down to 180, but our team was 11-1 so I wasn't sweating it.

    I drilled up a Trop Breeze using the Tri-Grip mainly to see how the ball came off my hand differently.

    On Friday, I used the Breeze all 3 games shooting 198 (clean, no doubles), 227 (clean, a double and a 3 bagger), 267 (1st 3, 7 pin miss, last 8)

    I didn't drill the ball with any extreme layout. I didn't even use a true layout. I put the pin on the grip centerline about 1.5 inches above the fingers, and the CG on the grip centerline.

    Since the lanes have a hold area around 10, I played a stroker shot straight up 8,

    It's hard to describe how it felt different than the "standard" drilling. It seemed to hang differently allowing a straighter line from shoulder, elbow, wrist, and ball.

    Maybe this is what the informational video is talking about when they show the elbow and hand position.
    After more use it will be interesting to hear your long term thoughts on the advantages, or disadvantages of the GRIP.
    I noticed right off, and so did my friends watching me bowl that ((in my case it gave me more rev's, I think by getting the thumb out earlier)) Accuracy was about the same,,, it does fell different, seems to me like the ball weight is more evenly distributed in the hand.

    Thanks for your thoughts, looking forward to hearing what others have to about the Tri GRIP! ice
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    This grip sound s totally awsome!! Have to seee if someone does it near here

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    @MikeWhite

    Try it a couple more times and see if you still recommend it. If you do, I'm on the way out to Riverside!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    @MikeWhite

    Try it a couple more times and see if you still recommend it. If you do, I'm on the way out to Riverside!!
    Do it Aslan.... take that next great leap toward 200-ville!!! More comfort, more control, ball feels lighter, more rev's... higher scores! Jump on a plane and fly out to KCI airport,,, indepence is not far from the landing pad!! Have Bruce measure, and do the lay out! He has 2 twice tri-Griped my balls! No problems, other then high scores...... what's a ticket cost,, (about the price of a ball)!! I still say several around here, are swearing by it!

    And you know how trends always start here, in Kansas city Mo. first then make the west coast a few years later!
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    Well...I have to admit...with the exception of the past prostitution issues...Iceman is my hero...so if he recommends it...I am not only interested...but abliged to comply.

    It will be so Iceman...and my scores...will surpass even your's. I know, it sounds like more fiction than fact...but I'm a believer...hope and change my friend...hope and change.
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    Default 1/3 of what it takes is a ball drilled correctly,,,, Tri-Grip


    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Well...I have to admit...with the exception of the past prostitution issues...Iceman is my hero...so if he recommends it...I am not only interested...but abliged to comply.

    It will be so Iceman. A second Frantic...WILL be drilled try-grip...and my scores...will surpass even your's. I know, it sounds like more fiction than fact...but I'm a believer...hope and change my friend...hope and change.
    When you come to be fitted, make sure you bring your favorite ball that you now throw! It will give Bruce, at BP Pro shop, (((which has a Face book site))

    Type BP's pro shop on face book, he has pictures and info on the many people that swear by the new grip! I even think Iceman is mentioned and has pictures of me with some of my accomplishments... lol Bruce use to be a pro bowler, and then drilled for some of the Big names when he left the pro tour.

    I have his address, and phone if interested,,, THINK about it Aslan!! A dream ball, to lead you to that desired 200 plus average could be a reality!
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    The second night out was a little less successful.
    The problem wasn't with the grip, it was just in the wrong ball for the lane conditions.
    All I had was a Breeze for strikes, and I drilled up a Polar Ice for spares. Both Tri-Grip.


    I'm going to redrill my Sync using the Tri-Grip because I do like the feel better than the previous grip style.
    I just don't feel it's the end all, be all answer to everyone's prayers.

    The 2nd frame I left a 6-10 and somehow managed to launch the ball into the gutter at about 45 feet.
    I guess I hasn't realized how slick the lanes were yet.
    I had a strike in the 9th, got the first one in the 10th, then left a 3-10, getting only the 3 pin for a whopping 178 (but we won by 1 pin), then 190, and 220. We won all 3.

    Another open was a 1-2-8. Hit the pocket side, and didn't cover the 8 pin.
    left a 4-6, (got the 4) and a 4-6-7-9-10, got the (6-9-10).

    So 2 opens due to stupid second balls, and 2 opens due to stupid first balls.

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    Mike, you mentioned earlier that your PAP changed. Is there any guidance given to pro shops on this before they drill a ball? I don't suppose there's a general prediction on how it will change, right? I'm considering having a ball plugged and drilled, but I don't relish the idea of getting a surprise layout due to not knowing the PAP in advance.

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    Well...threw the try-grip a little bit tonight.

    1) The thumb hole...too big!! No sure why...Mike gave me a great measurement. The only thing I can think of is we had to do a little more "smoothing" than usual because my thumb pitch was weird and it went through the plug in partially into the ball...leaving a rough spot. But...easy fix...put a little tape in the hole...better to have it a little big than a little small.

    2) LOVED IT. Thumbhole issue aside...the ball came off my hand so, so smoothly!! It felt like I was "dropping" it...but I wasn't. I was actually getting decent roll with it...but it came off the hand very smooth. And it sorta helped me not loft it as much. I think with the tri-grip...it isn't as easy to loft it...but thats okay...because I have more than enough loft.

    Biggest test...it'll be my primary and spare ball for this Thursday's league (unless I really, really struggle with it or can't resolve the thumb issue). But...so far so good...definitely a noticeably different feel. If things go well...I might use the ball for the remainder of the Thursday league (6-8 more weeks) and then have Mike re-evaluate my mechanics and hopefully get one of my new balls drilled tri-grip!!
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    Default It comes off the hand alomst like

    A no thumb bowling style! In my case the thumb comes out much sooner, and I get incredible rev's, without lose of control or dropping the ball! I think you might be right mike that feeling of dropping the ball, but in my case on two different balls, I am more accurate, and lots more hook, due to rev's!!!

    That fact that the ball actually feels lighter, and in better alinment with my arm helps with accuracy.

    But beware,,, you will have to change your target, or more left from the conventional girp! It just puts more juice on the ball!! Iceman's opinion!
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