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    I have that issue too I throw a couple bad balls just stand and watch me implode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    There are a few women in my former Thursday league that were HORRIBLE lofters. And they weren't GOOD!! They were throwing balls that were obviously WAY too light...and it almost looked like an underhand softball pitch. Very loud...very annoying. And their "I just don't care" just made it worse and more annoying.

    Sounds like someone I KNOW,, the ANNOYING part!!

    As to guys talking trash...some bowlers it works well on...some it has the opposite effect. For me, it's motivational more so than anything.

    And thus WHAT??? YOU start bowling 200 games???? You hide the motivational stuff well!!

    Earlier this year I was subbing on my Friday team and shot a decent 168. The one guy on the opposing team tried to get in my head by commenting to me that "a guy wearing a shirt like that, I'd have expected you'd be better." I was wearing a shiny black/white bowling shirt.

    Was that the shirt that had glitter, and diamond dust forming a Kitty Cat on the front??? Cool shirt for maybe San Francisco Go giants! Pence is my favorite player on that team! If St Louis doesn't make it, they are my second choice. Getting back to the shirt, its a bit over-stated!!

    So the next two games I bowled a 193 and a 190. Would have been two straight clean games but in the 1st game of the two I guttered on the first shot in the 10th and could only pick up 9 on the second shot. I think we took 3 out of 4 points and I remember their team wasn't very happy.

    With you handicap, I wound WHY? Hey a 190 game for you is like Ice or Rob throwing a 220!!

    For me...and don't tell Iceman for AVI II....I AM my worst critic. If I'm bowling sub-par...just let me self destruct...because I will. Don't try to make it worse...because usually all that does is distract me from how bad I'm doing and cause me to focus on doing better...and then you're in trouble!
    THANKS FOR THE TIP!!! I would hate to see that explosive side of you when your game gets better due to TRASH TALK! OOOOO ,,,, ICE man is shacking in his recliner while typing TRASH!!

    We shall met again,,, I will bring the original poster that your friend made for you, but I fear the out come will still be the same!

    ROB, and Ice might be in their 60's, but WE have THE GIFT, grasshopper! (And in Rob's case, he has the Gift, and Knowledge)!

    Rob deserved to win this last meeting, but now that I have had a lesson, and do have the gift, I will return with a vengeance!!!!

    Losing to Rob was a learning experience! All I really needed was that ONE LESSON HE GAVE ME, that put me DOWN!! When I fell, it was one
    of those eureka moments, that changed my bowling life forever, it swept me OFF MY FEET!!

    Not sure if you looked closely at ICEMAN's face after the fall, but there were tears going down my face!!! NOT from the fall, or pain, I felt NOTHING in that regard, but from that ONE SIMPLE LESSON that ROB gave me, everything became SO CLEAR!

    Thank you Rob,,, for the FALL, it has changed my life!!!
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    Tuesday League Night: medium oil synthetics

    467 Series: 138-169-160
    First night in the new league. First game I did pretty well, but missed a single 2-pin and had a couple splits and a couple washouts…disappointing start. Game 2 was decent except out of 5 single pin leaves; I only picked up two. Lots of spares in Game 2 and very few strikes. Game 3 very similar except I only made 1 of 3 single pin spare opportunities and also had a split.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.71 pins
    Strikes: 32% (1 double and 8 singles)
    Spares: 47% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 33% (3/9)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (2x)
    Never left a single 1-pin nor 9-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 58% (7/12)
    Most common multi-pin leaves: 1-2-4 and 3-10 (2x each).

    Splits: 0% (0/3)

    Average over 3 games: 155.67.
    Average had I picked up 100% of single pin spare leaves: 179.00.

    The stats tell the story. I just couldn't make spares. Right side or left…the new plastic ball and new targets…just wasn't lined up right. Hit my target on nearly every shot but missed. One thing I'm working on is to line up more left (since the ball is on my right). Sometimes, I wouldn't trust that and square up to the foul line….other times I'd remain true to that philosophy and miss left.

    I'm not super bummed since the team took all 4 points and my team is a kinda cool bunch so I think it'll be a fun season. But the league is much more competitive than previous leagues…so it really makes me feel inadequate when you're bowling against guys that have 0 handicap and 220+ averages and so many 300-games that they don't care if they roll one. And it's hard being the 3rd best bowler on the team when I'm used to being #1 or #2.

    As far as the new technique…I miss the accuracy of the old approach/release. But I was successful if I just relaxed and threw the ball. This new approach/release I'm more upright and that makes it harder to hit a part of a board like before. And it makes me want to add a little "umpff" to the release. But when I focused on just relaxing and letting the ball go…accuracy increased and I made my 2-3 best shots. I have to keep reminding myself that I don't need the "umpff"…I get plenty of speed and carry just letting it go relaxed.

    Work in progress. Might as well have nights like tonight EARLY on in the season where it'll help my handicap.
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    Like anything else it will take time with both the release and the plastic. I'm going to go practice tonight Glad you found a cool team to bowl with. I have been the best on the team and in the middle I find I learn more bowling with people who are better than me so there is that although I do feel more pressured to perform bowling with the better bowlers sometimes more by myself than them.
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    Sunday Sport League: PBA Cheetah Pattern

    584 Series: 134-160-114-176
    Game 1, I only made 1 of 4 single-pin spares. Game 2 I made 7 straight spares and a strike…but opened with a 1-2-4-10 washout in the 1st frame and closed the game out with a missed single 5-pin in the 10th. Game 3 was an absolute embarrassment and made me wonder if there was any way to get out of this league where I clearly don't belong. Then Game 4 I did better. I struck a little, made my single-pin spares, and was only a couple frames (a pulled shot and a washout) away from a clean game.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 7.76 pins
    Strikes: 16% (1 double and 5 singles)
    Spares: 51% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 36% (4/11)
    Most common single-pin leave: 6-pin (3x).
    Never left a single 1-pin, 8-pin, nor 9-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 59% (13/22)
    Most common multi-pin leaves: 1-2-4 (3x).

    Splits: 0% (0/1)

    Average over 4 games: 146.00.
    Average had I picked up 100% of single pin spare leaves: 164.00.

    Again, the stats tell the story. I couldn't strike. I couldn't make my single-pin leaves. And my only saving grace was that my multiple-pin spare conversion rate was strong and I didn't leave many splits.

    Had a chance to throw a few practice games on the pattern afterwards...

    456 Series: 169-132-155
    Game 1 I managed to strike a bit which masked the sub-par spare shooting. Game 2 the spare shooting fell apart and the strikes stopped coming. Game 3 was "okay" except for a few open frames where I couldn't pick up the multi-pin spares. Only 3 open frames; but only 1 strike.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.09 pins
    Strikes: 25% (1 double and 6 singles)
    Spares: 47% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 40% (2/5)
    Most common single-pin leaves: 10-pin (3x).
    Only left single 3, 7, and 10-pins.

    Multiple Pin spares: 50% (9/18)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 1-2 (3x).

    Splits: 0% (0/3)

    Average over 3 games: 152.00.
    Average had I picked up 100% of single pin spare leaves: 159.00.

    Still some difference; but not as much as last week.

    Really struggled with timing. Tried to relax more but that was hit or miss. Started out trying to get low, but that was messing me up, so I started getting very upright and almost "chucking" the ball again. That wasn't working either. As far as the spares go, thats still a work in progress. In defense of the system; I left my cheat sheet at home and I think for some of the left side leaves I was standing too far left…which explains why I seemed to struggle more than usual. I also don't have a target/system for 2-pins and 3-pins…so those were more difficult than usual.

    I also think I have to figure out my thumb situation. After reading a recent article on Bowling This Month and the feedback I've gotten from my coach…and recent performance observations…thumb fit seems almost vital to performance. It seems like when I have a snug fit…and I don't pinch…the ball comes off clean and I get a very good release and good ball motion. When I "grip" and/or the thumb sticks…it's usually a very bad shot. I MUST get that figured out. I'm gonna have my Frantic replaced soon and I think I'll try the VISE IT grips just to give them a try. And I think before my next lesson I'm gonna have the Slingshot thumb-hole plugged and re-drilled. That ball has the best fit in terms of span…but I can't get my thumb all the way in…and my coach has been commenting on that.

    Next week is the WTBA Mexico City pattern so we're back to a LONG pattern. That means I'll have to tighten up my line a bit and go more direct at the pocket.
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    Thumb fit is the most important to well balanced bowling. When I'm struggling I have figured out its my thumb 90% of the time. The hardest thing about it is that it took me almost a year to be able to feel when I'm screwing it up by gripping or over rotating the hand both of which will mess my release up.

    Those sport patterns can be rough. I know how you tend to over think make sure it's not getting in your head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    Those sport patterns can be rough. I know how you tend to over think make sure it's not getting in your head
    I tried not to think too much.

    Originally I was concentrating on the footwork and getting low…

    Then I just focused on the footwork…and if I lofted it; oh well…

    Then I tried to focus on the footwork and my sweep leg…

    Just tried to keep it to 2 things. 4 things was too much. 7 things was way too much. So we're down to 2.

    I also try to stay alert about my release/getting thumb out/etc… but it happens so fast it doesn't do me any good to think about it.

    I'm not AS nervous in the sport shot league. I'm just in it for the experience and we have ZERO shot of winning. So if I do well, it's a bonus. I mean, Mike pointed out this morning that I had the lowest score (114) of the team and the highest score (176) of the team…so I just have to keep things in perspective. I actually did better THIS week than last week. My biggest challenge on Sunday mornings is to stay positive so I'm not a downer to my teammates. Mike was nice enough to play…we have this nice older lady on the team now as well. And I don't want to get so frustrated that they think, "geez…bowling with this guy is a nightmare." I mean, if they think, "this guy sucks."…I'm okay with that. But I don't want it to be my attitude.
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    Also, not to be an alarmist, but I also "may" have an injury to deal with in the near future. Having moderate pain when lifting my arm sideways. Tell tale sign of supraspinatus inflammation. Doesn't seem bad enough to require surgery at this point. But the only way to reverse the symptoms are rest which means either stopping bowling or learning to bowl left handed.

    IDK. Maybe it'll feel better tomorrow. But tomorrow is practice…which I desperately need…so we'll see how it goes. Did the same thing when I started running and doing 5Ks. Ended up with a bad case of plantar fasciiitis. Ended up having to stop running for 1-3 weeks and it never really went away. If I do a 2-10 mile run…I'll be limping that night and probably the next morning. This supraspinatus inflammation may be similar, something that won't require surgery but will keep me from as much bowling as I'd like or from the level I want to get to.

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    Default Take CARE!! DMSO, and MSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Also, not to be an alarmist, but I also "may" have an injury to deal with in the near future. Having moderate pain when lifting my arm sideways. Tell tale sign of supraspinatus inflammation. Doesn't seem bad enough to require surgery at this point. But the only way to reverse the symptoms are rest which means either stopping bowling or learning to bowl left handed.

    IDK. Maybe it'll feel better tomorrow. But tomorrow is practice…which I desperately need…so we'll see how it goes. Did the same thing when I started running and doing 5Ks. Ended up with a bad case of plantar fasciiitis. Ended up having to stop running for 1-3 weeks and it never really went away. If I do a 2-10 mile run…I'll be limping that night and probably the next morning. This supraspinatus inflammation may be similar, something that won't require surgery but will keep me from as much bowling as I'd like or from the level I want to get to.
    READ ABOUT DMSO,,, and MSM,,, I have used both for YEARS! DMSO, can be ordered on like from several places,,, just make sure its 70 percent, mixed with purified water. AMAZING healing properties, BUT MAKE sure you read ALL about it from many blogs on line. Many of my friends also SWEAR by its healing properties, and is less toxic to the body then a common aspirin! Good LUCK! Take it easy for a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Also, not to be an alarmist, but I also "may" have an injury to deal with in the near future. Having moderate pain when lifting my arm sideways. Tell tale sign of supraspinatus inflammation. Doesn't seem bad enough to require surgery at this point. But the only way to reverse the symptoms are rest which means either stopping bowling or learning to bowl left handed.

    IDK. Maybe it'll feel better tomorrow. But tomorrow is practice…which I desperately need…so we'll see how it goes. Did the same thing when I started running and doing 5Ks. Ended up with a bad case of plantar fasciiitis. Ended up having to stop running for 1-3 weeks and it never really went away. If I do a 2-10 mile run…I'll be limping that night and probably the next morning. This supraspinatus inflammation may be similar, something that won't require surgery but will keep me from as much bowling as I'd like or from the level I want to get to.
    First off quit lifting your arm sideways

    Second my wife had to start bowling leftie due to carpel tunnel problems her average went from 140 to 68 upto 89 now

    Third we know what causes your arm pain there's another mental picture none of us wanted

    Lastly get better
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