Reply With QuoteInteresting observation on core vs coverstock as it pertains to lower rev players. It would make sense that RG has less of an effect on lower rev players than the coverstock.
"Game 2 was decent through 7 frames; a couple bad shots. Then I left a single 10-pin in the 8th (and missed it, of course) on a flush hit so again I decided to ball down in the 10th to the Melee Jab and struck out.
Game 3 I stuck with the Melee Jab the entire game...but it's a tricky ball to figure out. Some shots were so perfect it was scary...other shots seemed decent but either over or under reacted. I ended up moving inside about 3 with my eyes and 4 with my feet...but it was just weird that I had to move like that on the right lane...but didn't make one lateral move on the left lane until mid-late 3rd game."
Not wierd at all! Just as two lanes next to each other are rarely the same, two lanes next to each other often transition totally differently. It's not unusual for the lane that is tighter at the beginning of the set to be the lane that is hooking the most by the end of the night. This often happens very suddenly, when the lane "explodes." Your problem figuring out the Jab stems from the fact that you are still letting your preconceptions about cover materials cloud your thinking. The Jab has a low RG of 2.487. The Lethal Revolver has a low RG of 2.52. While the Lethal revolver has a Diff. of 2.54 vs. 2.50 for the Jab, that small difference will only have a noticable effect for bowlers with very high rev rates (not you). When you change to the Jab, you are not "balling down," you are changing how the ball reacts because of the polished surface (more over/under if you have not made the correct lateral moves). Funny how when I "ball down," it's from the Jab, not to the Jab!
Interesting observation on core vs coverstock as it pertains to lower rev players. It would make sense that RG has less of an effect on lower rev players than the coverstock.
Rob was referring to the differential having less effect on low rev players not RgOriginally Posted by NewToBowling
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900 Global Badger Claw - Radical Ridiculous Pearl - Spare Ball Ebonite T Zone
Mark Baker made similar comments when he took a look at my arsenal. I was thinking my gap was not having enough strong balls at the top and that in heavier conditions or longer/wider conditions...it makes it tough. His take was that I needed weaker balls in the arsenal because he looked at the Asylum and Jab and had the same evaluation....that those are strong balls to have as #3 and #4 in the progression.
Part of me thinks that as I get better and my release more consistent, I'll be able to take more advantage of balls like the Jab. I'm like the 3rd person to say this...so it seems to be a trend....but the Jab is probably the most effective ball in my bag....and it's not even a close contest. But it is also the least forgiving ball in my bag because slight axis tilt variations or flatter than average release....and that ball is going to miss the headpin right or go through the nose. And I've seen that with most pearls I've tried to throw.
On the flipside...I think I do well with solids because with less axis tilt/revs...it's more forgiving. I might hit light and leave a corner-pin...but the ball usually dies before going through the nose or Brooklyn. Unfortunately, I'm not good enough at seeing the ball burn out...so I would just keep throwing it over and over trying to fix my release/rpms/speed...when I really just needed to ball down. I'm getting better at that, but it's a slow process.
But my revs must be improving...I'm overdue for a video posting...because last night the speed was between 16.9 and 17.7 mph at the pins...and wasn't having any trouble getting into the pocket. That's encouraging because I really hate to lose the power/speed advantage. As you know, the speed ain't gonna last forever. 10-15 years from now, probably bowling on a reconstructed knee of some kind (hoping for bionic)....I have no delusions that I'll still be able to throw at this speed. But I'd like to take advantage of it as long as I can.
And I DID offer the Jab to that guy I bowled against last week. I told him about Rob's suggestions but I think he's pretty cash strapped right now so even the Jab on sale on bowlingball.com for $109....might still be a stretch for him...especially with the holidays and what not. I told him he could have the Jab at the end of the season and he seemed pretty happy about that.
A part of me still feels like I should give it to him now though. If it wasn't hitting so damn well...it would be an easier choice. And he didn't seem at all disappointed that he would have to wait a few months. Actually, I would like to keep it till September when I switch arsenals...but I figured end of this season was a good compromise. And this way I won't regret giving it to him when he goes to sweeps and beats me with it.
Saturday Weekly Color-Pin Tournament:
Still trying to get some practice at the house I can't seem to figure out...
531 Series: 191-173-167
Game 1 was okay; a couple opens. Game 2 was 2 strikes and a split away from an all spare game. Just couldn't figure things out. Game 3 I used the Melee Jab but it was erratic as usual and the lanes started to transition rather quickly in Game 3.
PinPal Stats:
First Ball Average: 8.50 pins
Strikes: 31% (1 turkey, 1 double, and 5 singles)
Spares: 72% picked up
Single Pin spares: 90% (10/11)
Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (4x)
Never left a single 1-pin, 4-pin, 5-pin, 7-pin, nor 8-pin.
Multiple Pin spares: 54% (6/11)
Most common multi-pin leaves: 2-4-5-8 bucket and 6-7-10 split (2x each)
Splits: 0% (0/3).
Average over 3 games: 177.00.
Average had I picked up 100% of single pin spare leaves: 180.33.
Statistically very similar to league nights, previous weekly tournaments, and practices (see below):
562, 567, 560, 530, 512, 447, 568, 475, 538, 585, 539, 534, 534, 518, 497, 439, 525, 502, 547, 456, 531
Just seems like I'm gonna bowl 530-559 every night. If I get a decent pair, maybe I get in the upper 500s. If I have some bad breaks, splits, approach issues, thumb issues....then I'm looking at the upper 400s.
It just seems like a very wide and very long pattern with maybe a lighter oil or a lighter volume. So, it plays long/heavy...but transitions quickly.
Spare shooting was above average. Going to have to continue working on things. Kinda disappointed that my ability to score high is restricted to a certain center. And the annual BVL tournament is at this center in January...and now I'll be in Division A so no more taking advantage of a < 170 average. Now I'm in the 171-190 division.
Oh well. Maybe I'll try a slower speed on Monday and see if that changes anything.
In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Brunswick Endeavor; (: .) Radical Outer Limits Pearl; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 186; Lifetime Average = 171;
Ball Speed: 14.4mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181
Smokey this is not 'Nam', this is bowling. There are rules. Proud two-time winner of a bowlingboards.com weekly ball give-away!
Monday League: long/wide THS, synthetics, plays like a longer sport (48-51ft) with some out of bounds at 1-4.
501 Series: 175-179-147
Damn. I just realized compared to last week, I was pretty good. That's kinda MORE depressing now that I think about it.
Game 1 and Game 2 were very similar. Not a lot of striking...one open each game on a single-pin and one open each game on some stupid multi-pin leave like the 1-2-4-7 or 1-5-8-9. Game 3 I was drunk. I can't average in the 170s because it depresses me too much and then by the 3rd game I'm drunk.
PinPal Stats:
First Ball Average: 8.33 pins
Strikes: 33% (3 doubles and 5 singles)
Spares: 61% picked up
Single Pin spares: 71% (5/7)
Most common single-pin leaves: 2-pin and 5-pin (2x each)
Never left a single 1-pin, 4-pin, 6-pin, 7-pin, nor 8-pin.
Multiple Pin spares: 57% (8/14)
Most common multi-pin leaves: 6-10 and 1-2-8 (2x each).
Splits: 0% (0/1)
Average over 3 games: 167.00.
Average had I picked up 100% of single pin spare leaves: 173.33.
Stupid game. I brought two ladies back to my apartment though...granted nothing happened. But still.
Spent the WHOLE night playing outside the first arrow. Probably 1-4 boards. I just couldn't find a shot inside. And that's miserable. The closer you have to ride that edge, the more mentally exhausting it is. Only channeled a first shot once, but it was coming off a spare. : (
Used the Lethal Revolver Game 1 and most of Game 2. I didn't "want" to...but that pattern was playing so long and wide...and with a non-existent breakpoint...it didn't seem like a "losing energy" reason to why I was hitting so weak. I watched some of the other players and the ones that were having success had much stronger equipment and lower ball speeds. Maybe I gotta "cage the beast" a bit in this house because 16-17mph just isn't working.
I switched to the Dark Encounter, that I hand polished over the weekend to test Amyer's theory...and it felt good and seemed to work well...but by the time I was finding my groove, the alcohol was setting in. $2 shots every time there was a touchdown and the score must have been like 100-90 or something.
Embarassing. AND...despite the girl teammates being wasted...no hanky panky...which BEGS the question...."How drunk does a girl have to be to sleep with Aslan?!?" And apparently our third teammate isn't there AGAIN...at first the reason was he was still sick...but later it came out that he's in jail. Drugs, resisting arrest, etc... So lets see...I got passed over for the first guy. He was tall and had nice eyes and was a very good bowler...younger...I get it. But THEN...I get passed over AGAIN....and this time for a guy doing time? I mean, granted it's 15-30 days...still. If it was anyone else's life...it would be hilarious. And the new guy SUCKS at bowling and this stupid league makes men start with a 175 average if they don't have one established. This guy is lucky to score 120.
No hangover this morning. Man, I must have been RIGHT on the edge. All I ate yesterday was half a muffin from 7/11 and 2 cherries from the bar. I figured I'd be yackin or draggin. But...was wide awake and felt awesome at 6:20AM. Crazy.
In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Brunswick Endeavor; (: .) Radical Outer Limits Pearl; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 186; Lifetime Average = 171;
Ball Speed: 14.4mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181
Smokey this is not 'Nam', this is bowling. There are rules. Proud two-time winner of a bowlingboards.com weekly ball give-away!
And I highlighted the 2-pin and 5-pin because it was exactly the same as last week. That at least gives me a hint that whatever I'm doing wrong...I'm consistently doing it wrong. And as GIJoe never fails to remind us...
I would like to hear more about this. Were they "just friends" or was there an outside shot of Aslan getting lucky? What the hell did you guys do exactly at the Aslan shack? Did they question your pile of undrilled bowling balls? Finally, please tell me you didn't pay for something....
Inquiring minds....
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