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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Thursday Men's League: THS

    567 Series: 191-166-210

    Opened in the 4th, 5th, and 6th on a 4-7-9 split, single 4-pin, and Big 4 split. But, struck 6 times on 12 shots to salvage a respectable score.

    Game 2 I switched to the Fortera Exile but it was more of the same. Struck 6 times on 10 shots. But, I opened in the 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 10th on a 9-10 split, 2-4-10 split, and on two single 10-pins. All I needed was one less open and I'd have beaten my opponent that game and swept him for the night. I beat him by around 20 pins scratch, but he edged me out by a couple pins with his handicap advantage.

    Game 3 I switched to the Rhino Gold. Only one open in the 4th on a 3-6 leave. Unfortunately, that open was the only non-strike between the 2nd and 7th frames; interrupting a potential 6-bagger.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 9.06 pins
    Strikes: 51%
    Spares: 42% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 50% (6/9)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (3x)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 4-pin, and 9-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 37% (3/8)
    Most common multi-pin leaves: 3-6 (2x)

    Splits: 0% (0/4)

    Average over 3 games: 189.00.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 199.33.

    Saw 2 guys shoot 300s...one of which shot a 300-296-215 for an 811. Being in a league like that...where 300s are a weekly event....I think ya lose focus on spares. As soon as you leave a spare, you think, "Well, screw it...game over."

    Not happy with my spare shooting...it really hurt my scores and cost me a sweep of an inferior opponent...but at least I was carrying better on the majority of my shots. An over-average night is an over-average night.
    Yeah we have alt of 300's in our league too. The PSO has 3 this year I think. One night him and another guy on his team both had 300's in the same game but that was last season. Looking at our standings/stats page we have 5 different guys roll 300's this season and like I said, the one has 3. Maybe one of these days I can get my name on there...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    Yeah we have alt of 300's in our league too. The PSO has 3 this year I think. One night him and another guy on his team both had 300's in the same game but that was last season. Looking at our standings/stats page we have 5 different guys roll 300's this season and like I said, the one has 3. Maybe one of these days I can get my name on there...lol
    We have one 300 in our league this year. No 800's. There's been a few at the house, just not in our league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmyb View Post
    We have one 300 in our league this year. No 800's. There's been a few at the house, just not in our league.
    Our PSO had an 823 in our league. I think that's the night he had a 300, 289 and 234ish. But his average is 233 so not a stretch for him to roll a 300. He may have had multiple 800's this year but the stats only show the highest from each bowler. The next highest are 792 and 772.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmyb View Post
    We have one 300 in our league this year. No 800's. There's been a few at the house, just not in our league.
    It's a different experience. I've been in leagues in "easier houses" where I averaged 10 pins higher than I was averaging elsewhere...and there were 8-11 300-games...maybe a few 800 series in a season. But this league is a little different in that the house doesn't seem 'easier' than other houses I bowl at...its just a league where all of the highest average bowlers in this area...all bowl. So, you have PBA pros, PBA Regional players, PBA50 bowlers, State Hall of Famers, sponsored players, and young bowlers that were star players in high school or were bowlers on college teams. Just on my team...which is middle of the pack to bottom of the standings...we have a state USBC hall of famer and our anchor is a former college player that is sponsored by DV8. I'm one of the very few players in the entire league that has never thrown a 300 in their career. Some guys have thrown so many they've lost count.

    Friday Mixed League: THS

    570 Series: 208-206-156

    The conditions were so bad, our best bowler almost left after two warm-up shots. Apparently the oil machine had broken down 7 times during the oiling of the lanes prior to league bowling.

    So, on the left lane it was clear the the oil machine hadn't cleaned the backend. You could SEE the ball as it failed to make the turn at the breakpoint. Imagine seeing a ball, a pulled shot, and it gets to that point where you're 99% sure it's going to dive through the nose....and it keeps sliding and leaves a 5-7.

    On the right lane, it was also QUITE CLEAR that the oil machine had failed to put down a pattern. I threw my normal shot and missed left of the headpin. I usually start standing left toe between 19 and 20 and throwing up the 10-board. I may have to make a slight adjustment off that starting point...but on this lane I had to start with my left toe between 25 and 26....aiming at 14. So, a 4 and 6 move left to start the match on that right lane.

    Now...this wasn't the end of the world for MY game. Granted, for our two elderly bowlers with extremely low speeds...this was bad news. It was also bad news for the 3 bowlers on the other team that were high rev thumbless bowlers.

    Game 1 I started off strong with a 4-bagger. Struggled with carry the rest of the way, but made my spares...except for a 4-6-7 split in the 7th. I switched to the Fortera Exile on the second strike shot in the 10th....probably should have made the change earlier.

    Game 2 I struck on 4 out of the first 5 shots, but then made a few bad shots. Missed on a single 10-pin in the 9th, but doubled in the 10th after switching to the Rhino Gold.

    By Game 3 I was just in too far to have an effective shot. That means a loss of carry...only struck twice...opened 3 times...including a 2-10 in the 10th.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.76 pins
    Strikes: 36%
    Spares: 73% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 85% (6/7)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (4x)

    Multiple Pin spares: 66% (8/12)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 6-10 (2x)

    Splits: 25% (1/4)

    Average over 3 games: 190.00.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 194.00.

    The left lane was a challenge. On a spent pattern with oil at the breakpoint (carry down), you have some ability to pull shots without disastrous consequences...but a miss right...even a board...was through the nose.

    The right lane was far worse. When you're used to playing the track and maybe finishing on the 12-14 board area by the end of the night...but suddenly you're at the end of the night and you're targeting left of center and standing up against the ball return...thats definitely "C-Game" territory. Our team fell back into last place...lost 5 out of 7 points. So, that's great.
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    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    "The conditions were so bad, our best bowler almost left after two warm-up shots. Apparently the oil machine had broken down 7 times during the oiling of the lanes prior to league bowling."

    That's really sad! Were the conditions different for him than for everyone else? I don't think so! The idea is to win the points, not feed your inflated house-shot league average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    "The conditions were so bad, our best bowler almost left after two warm-up shots. Apparently the oil machine had broken down 7 times during the oiling of the lanes prior to league bowling."

    That's really sad! Were the conditions different for him than for everyone else? I don't think so! The idea is to win the points, not feed your inflated house-shot league average.
    Speaking to the choir. But...you know how bowlers are. And it wasn't just our best bowler...the top bowler on the other team shot nearly 650 and spent the whole night complaining about the conditions. He thinks he should strike on every shot...and when he doesn't...its the lanes and the center.

    I mean, I CAN see their point in that you at least expect a center to oil their lanes before league play. Now, in a perfect world that would be a lower level USBC colored pattern...not some easy THS cr*p....but that's a different argument. But it should be something and consistent. To just not oil at all or oil with a machine that isn't working....thats just poor ownership. This'll likely be my last league at that center for multiple reasons.

    And, as you will probably agree, bowlers don't want to learn how to adjust. They don't want to learn about ball technology. So, when lanes are different...and their typical shot or ball won't work...they lose their minds. I may not 'like' to play inside...but if thats what I have to do...thats what I have to do. If I 'see' something in my shot...I know when to make a change and WHY to make a change. Now, that doesn't help me much on easy THS conditions where I'm outgunned by thumbless bowlers just revving it up and hitting their angles...but when conditions become unfamiliar...I can hold my own (usually).

    Thursday Men's League: THS
    (not the same center as being discussed above)

    502 Series: 161-139-202

    I don't know. My line seemed a little off in practice...thought I fixed it...then started diving through the nose. Only had a few opens...but only struck twice.

    Game 2 was miserable...one of the worst games in recent memory. Opened as many times as I marked....actually opened one MORE time than I marked. Switched to the Fortera Exile in the 9th and doubled.

    Game 3 things felt better. I opened in the 1st frame, but was then clean through 9 until I opened in the 10th. Both opens were on washouts.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.03 pins
    Strikes: 31%
    Spares: 47% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 66% (4/6)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (3x)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 4-pin, and 6-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 40% (6/15)
    Most common multi-pin leaves: 1-2-3, 1-2-3-10, and 3-6-10 (2x each)

    Splits: 0% (0/3)

    Average over 3 games: 167.33.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 174.33.

    Games in the 110-149 range just really suck the will to bowl right out of you. This season has caused me to question a great deal about whether or not I might just need to take my below average ability and park it in 1-2 "fun" leagues with like-skilled doofuses.

    Our anchor (sponsored by DV8) said it looked like I was really, really rushing the foul line...getting there in some cases before the ball got to the top of my backswing...then having to jerk it down. So, at least that gave me some insight in time to slow things down for Game 3.
    In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Pyramid Force Pearl; (: .) Brunswick Rhino Gold; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    I have a teammate that leaves a bunch of 10 pins. He makes the comment 'what do you expect, it's <insert name of center here>'. I told him there is a reason he leaves 10's and he needs to figure out why and figure out how to fix it. His response was he isn't that scientific to figure it out. He has been bowling in leagues for about 35-40 years. He will change balls and move in and out but with no reason why. He just changes it to change it.


    On another note, I entered a tournament last year and had never bowled on a sport pattern. Get there and they announced it was a 47' Scorpion. I guess about 10 guys got up and left. Apparently that tournament had always used THS but people complained that scores were too high. BTW-I made the cut and cashed out...lol. Got lucky and rolled a 219 in the one set and that got me in. My league average was 173 and I averaged 157 for the tourney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    Get there and they announced it was a 47' Scorpion. I guess about 10 guys got up and left. Apparently that tournament had always used THS but people complained that scores were too high.
    That's about right. Bowlers have very fragile egos. And the higher the scoring gets on a THS with modern equipment...the higher the expectations. And centers know it. I've heard Hall of Fame proprietors, on TV, talking about how they "...try to keep the house patterns as easy as possible because people in leagues just want to have fun and not work too hard. They just want to drink beer and eat chicken wings and bowl high scores."

    There was a house in Fullerton, CA...and AMF house...I average about 15 pins higher there than the other two centers I bowled at. It was just an easier shot. Everybody had higher averages there and probably 8-9 people had 300-games. That was where I shot my only 300 (in practice). There's a center here that I bowled at over the summer...average 195...15 pins or more than I average in leagues elsewhere in the area. It's an easier shot.

    Friday Mixed League: THS

    585 Series: 212 (clean)-193-180

    Game 1 was X, 9 /, 9 /, 9 /, X, X, 5 /, X, X, 9 / X.
    I was around the pocket on all but 4 shots. Only one frame where I got < 9 pins on the first shot...and I picked up all my spares.

    Easy to see what went wrong in Game 2: X, X, 9 -, 5 /, 9 /, X, 9 /, X, X, 9 -.
    Switched to the Rhino Gold about midway through. There's just no excuse for missed single-pins. Missed a 7-pin in the 3rd and missed a 10-pin in the 10th. Could have gotten around 210 is I just made my spares.

    Then it was just a struggle as I watched a 600 series slowly slip away. Switched to the Exile to battle, what appeared to be, some carry down at the breakpoint. Only opened 3 times...a pocket 7-10, another missed 10-pin, and a bad shot that left a 1-2-4-8 I couldn't convert. Had to strike out in the 9th and 10 to even get my average.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 9.06 pins
    Strikes: 48%
    Spares: 70% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 72% (8/11)
    Most common single-pin leave: 7-pin and 10-pin (3x each)

    Multiple Pin spares: 66% (4/6)
    Most common multi-pin leave: n/a

    Splits: 0% (0/1)

    Average over 3 games: 195.00.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 204.33.

    After all the complaints about the lanes not being oiled last week, the center put more oil down than usual...or at least widened/lengthened the pattern. On the right lane, I was almost throwing straight at the pocket. I probably could have used my Grudge Hybrid, but I left it in the car.

    Wasn't a terrible night...but the team lost all 7 points...which is getting old.
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    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    I only bowl in the Tuesday night league but filled in on the Friday league a few months back. I was horrible. Couldn't get anything to work. Talked to one of the top guys at the end of the night and he said they have a little shorter pattern on Tuesday nights to help the older guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    I only bowl in the Tuesday night league but filled in on the Friday league a few months back. I was horrible. Couldn't get anything to work. Talked to one of the top guys at the end of the night and he said they have a little shorter pattern on Tuesday nights to help the older guys.
    I've heard similar about the difference between Thursday and Friday nights at my Thursday house. It's hard to tell what is true or just B.S. when it comes to bowlers though.

    Thursday Men's League: THS

    625 Series: 160-245 (clean)-220

    I got to practice a bit late...so took 3-4 frames just to get my line. Wasn't making good shots in Game 1. X, 7 1, 8 /, 9 /, X, 9 /, 9 /, 9 -, 9 -, X 8 1. Back-to-Back missed corner pins really hurt me in the 8th and 9th.

    Game 2 things came together. I was making better shots. X, X, 8 /, X, X, X, X, 8 /, X, X 9 /.

    Game 3 was very similar....just had to deal with a little transition. X, X, X, 8 -, X, 8 1, X, X, X, X 9 -.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 9.33 pins
    Strikes: 57%
    Spares: 50% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 57% (4/7)
    Most common single-pin leave: 4-pin (3x)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 7-pin, and 10-pin (2x).

    Multiple Pin spares: 42% (3/7)
    Most common multi-pin leaves: 6-10 (3x)

    Splits: 0% (0/3)

    Average over 3 games: 208.33.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 216.00.

    Last week I'm questioning whether I should just bowl in fun leagues and accept that I am a sucky bowler...this week I'm taking 3 out of 4 points, winning one card game, and winning two high game pots. Granted, our anchor wasn't there...but we replaced him with a 200+ average sub...so there was still competition. Beat my high score in this league/this season with a 245 (previously had two games of 242) and my high series with a 625 (previous high was a 616). Wasn't able to match my high scores from last season in this league where I scored a couple 246 games and had a 678 series...but I guess there's a few more weeks left...so who knows?
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    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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