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    So the important question is did your daughter have fun? Did she kick your butt that last game?
    Inquiring minds want to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    So the important question is did your daughter have fun? Did she kick your butt that last game?
    Inquiring minds want to know.
    She "sort of" had fun because she's not very good at bowling. That was her assessment.

    No, she didn't break 70 in Games 1 or 3...so I was safe...even with the pathetic sub-140 effort.

    I gotta try and work with her, see if I can get her bowling better while also keeping things "fun".

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    Thursday Men's League: THS

    593 Series: 197 (clean)-176-220 (clean)

    Not a lot of strikes in Game 1, but spare shooting was above average to salvage a score above my average.

    Game 2 was still pretty good...I just had a couple splits and a chopped 3-6...but I struck more, which helped.

    Game 3 was kind've a combination of Games 1 and 2...solid spare shooting...AND I ran a couple strikes together here and there.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.91 pins
    Strikes: 48%
    Spares: 70% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 100% (6/6)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (2x)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 3-pin, 4-pin, and 6-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 54% (6/11)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 1-2-4-7 washout (2x).

    Splits: 0% (0/2)

    Average over 3 games: 197.67.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: n/a.

    Continued to struggle with consistent carry...but my spare shooting was at a high level.

    Last week where I can use my book 178 average from last season...so things will be a bit tougher moving forward carrying a 190.
    In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Pyramid Force Pearl; (: .) Brunswick Rhino Gold; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    Friday Mixed League: THS

    538 Series:182-170-186

    Game 1 was a tale of two games. Started out with 4 opens in 5 frames...missed 3 single-pin spares after two clean games the night before. Then, a 4-bagger and spare to finish out in the 180s.

    Balled down to the Grudge Hybrid (3000 surface) from the Aura Mystic (surfaced to 800). Game 2 was more of the same...3 missed single-pin spares...struck out in the 10th.

    Started Game 3 with another 4-bagger...then ended up with a 5-10 split in the 5th. Opened on a chopped 6-10 in the 7th and completely whiffed a 6-10 in the 10th...so more of the same.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.97 pins
    Strikes: 39%
    Spares: 47% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 45% (5/11)
    Most common single-pin leave: 4-pin (4x)
    Also left a single 5-pin, 6-pin (1x), 7-pin, and 10-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 50% (4/8)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 6-10 (3x).

    Splits: 0% (0/1)

    Average over 3 games: 179.33.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 200.00.

    It's even more depressing to see that I could have averaged 200 if I only made my single-pin spares. Made 100% of them the night before...then last night...less than half. Ya just can't do that and expect to win.
    In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Pyramid Force Pearl; (: .) Brunswick Rhino Gold; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Thursday Men's League: THS

    593 Series: 197 (clean)-176-220 (clean)

    Last week where I can use my book 178 average from last season...so things will be a bit tougher moving forward carrying a 190.
    I’m in the same boat except my league has only finished two weeks. 17-18 season my average was in the 190s, 18-19 average was 184. First week of this season I had a 611 series. This week I had a 663 series.
    While it feels like I should be able to stay over 200, I finished the summer at 192. I think I’ll just try to enjoy it while it lasts.
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    Every-Other-Sunday Family Doubles: THS

    568 Series:190-168-210

    Game 1 started out with a 4-bagger...then 9 /, 9 -, 9 /, 8 /, 8 -, 9 -. Just struggling like MAD on 10-pins lately.

    Seemed like the Mystic, with an 800 surface, was too strong to be used way outside...near first arrow. So, I switched to the Grudge Hybrid....but still couldn't get a good line. On the left lane I was waffling between moving outside to the 7-board...or moving just inside the second arrow. On the right lane, I was much further right plying first arrow. Only struck twice...but fortunately only opened twice.

    Decided to switch to the Fortera Exile...figured maybe with the plastic balls being thrown by the two juniors...'maybe' some carrydown was out there. Opened with a turkey...had a double a couple opens...had to strike out for the 200+.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 9.00 pins
    Strikes: 42%
    Spares: 61% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 60% (6/10)
    Most common single-pin leave: 10-pin (3x)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 5-pin, 6-pin, and 7-pin (1x).

    Multiple Pin spares: 62% (5/8)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 1-2-4 (2x).

    Splits: N/A

    Average over 3 games: 189.33.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 203.33.

    Miserable night. My daughter was NOT enjoying herself. I'm gonna have to work with her some next week and the week after. I want her to have fun and she isn't having fun bowling 67-97 games.

    And I GOTTA get better with corner pins. Not sure how I went from two clean games on Thursday to such poor, poor corner-pin shooting Friday and today.
    In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Pyramid Force Pearl; (: .) Brunswick Rhino Gold; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Every-Other-Sunday Family Doubles: THS

    568 Series:190-168-210
    Miserable night. My daughter was NOT enjoying herself. I'm gonna have to work with her some next week and the week after. I want her to have fun and she isn't having fun bowling 67-97 games.

    And I GOTTA get better with corner pins. Not sure how I went from two clean games on Thursday to such poor, poor corner-pin shooting Friday and today.
    I know many amateur bowlers who are streaky when it comes to making spares. They can go for months where they make single pin spares at nearly the same rate as the pros. Then they go into a slump where it seems like they are missing 90% of their attempts,( it’s probably only 50% but it feels worse).

    Without seeing you bowl I don’t have any suggestions on how to “fix” your ten pin problem. All I can say is you know that you have been able to make the corners consistently in the recent past, you will be able to do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    Without seeing you bowl I don’t have any suggestions on how to “fix” your ten pin problem. All I can say is you know that you have been able to make the corners consistently in the recent past, you will be able to do it again.
    I really hate advice like this. If you start missing ten pins, there is a reason. It may be the line, or it may be something physical in the release, the timing, or, more probably, the footwork. This is why God created coaches. Use them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    I know many amateur bowlers who are streaky when it comes to making spares. They can go for months where they make single pin spares at nearly the same rate as the pros. Then they go into a slump where it seems like they are missing 90% of their attempts,( it’s probably only 50% but it feels worse).

    Without seeing you bowl I don’t have any suggestions on how to “fix” your ten pin problem. All I can say is you know that you have been able to make the corners consistently in the recent past, you will be able to do it again.
    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    I really hate advice like this. If you start missing ten pins, there is a reason. It may be the line, or it may be something physical in the release, the timing, or, more probably, the footwork. This is why God created coaches. Use them!
    Rob,
    This was not advice. This was encouragement. We both know that the fastest or best way out of his spare making slump would be qualified coaching. We also know that we’re talking to Aslan and for a variety of reasons coaching is not going to happen. I did not mean to imply that there wasn’t a problem that needs to be fixed.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    I know many amateur bowlers who are streaky when it comes to making spares. They can go for months where they make single pin spares at nearly the same rate as the pros. Then they go into a slump where it seems like they are missing 90% of their attempts...All I can say is you know that you have been able to make the corners consistently in the recent past, you will be able to do it again.
    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    I really hate advice like this. If you start missing ten pins, there is a reason. It may be the line, or it may be something physical in the release, the timing, or, more probably, the footwork. This is why God created coaches.
    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    Rob,
    This was not advice. This was encouragement. We both know that the fastest or best way out of his spare making slump would be qualified coaching.
    1. Thank you JAnderson for the encouragement.
    2. Yes Rob, you are right...it's "something" I'm doing.

    3. This is where...believe it or not...you're BOTH RIGHT.

    Yes, JAnderson is correct. SOMETIMES...picking up corner pins is a mental problem. We've all gotten done with a league night and felt like we missed 60% of our corner pins and looked at our stats and found out we missed 25%...it just SEEMED worse. And we've all went to shoot a 10 or 7 and thought to ourselves, "I'm gonna miss this." versus "I got this."

    And yes, shooting corner pins should be like making free throws...it should be automatic...it's just throwing a plastic ball straight at a pin. You can't blame the ball or the pattern or the lanes. YOU did something wrong. So yes, Rob is ALSO correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    We also know that we’re talking to Aslan and for a variety of reasons coaching is not going to happen. I did not mean to imply that there wasn’t a problem that needs to be fixed.
    That makes no sense. Aslan has LITERALLY had more coaching than anyone on this site. I've taken roughly 80 lessons from about 7 different coaches. Thats private lessons. I also went to 3-5 weekly clinics where I got pointers from a team of 2-6 coaches. I've probably spent upwards of $3500 just on bowling instruction...not counting lane usage during the lessons.

    So, just for the RECORD...Aslan is VERY open to coaching and values it.

    The PROBLEM with bowling coaching...is that a coach only considers you 'coachable' if you agree with them and discount all the others. So, my coaching experience/timeline..when I'd tell a coach about advice a previous coach gave me...would go something like this:

    Coach 2 (about Coach 1): "Yeah, that guy doesn't know anything."
    Coach 3 (about Coach 2): "Yeah, that guy is a complete nutcase, don't listen to anything he says."
    Coach 4 (about Coaches 1-3): "How many pro events and titles do they have? You might want to trust me on this stuff."
    Coach 5 (about Coaches 1-4): "Soooo...are any of them in the PBA Hall of Fame? Because I am."
    Coach 6 (about Coaches 1-5): "I coach pros on the National Tour...but go with whatever advice you think is best."

    Now, those are sorta "hypotehticals". I learned early on not to disagree with coaches or mention what another coach told me to do. Bowling coaches don't care what other bowling coaches say...and usually it just irritates them to hear about it. So, I take in as much knowledge and coaching and direction and opinion as I can...and I do my best to sew all those things into one cohesive strategy.

    I havent taken coaching "lately"...because I only know of one high level coach in this area. Now that I'm at the level where I'm bowling "against" some of these guys on league night...it seems kinda weird to walk up to them and say, "Hey...do you give lessons?" I'm pretty sure Tom Hess and Don Breeden give lessons when they aren't traveling for the tours...and I bowled against Tom Thursday and Don this past summer.

    SPEAKING OF Thursday Night...

    Thursday Men's League: THS

    492 Series: 187-157-148

    Game 1 wasn't terrible. As usual, I tend to elevate my game a bit when playing the pro team. Only opens were a 1-2-4-10 washout in Game 5 and then a missed 6-pin in the 10th...that 6-pin cost me a 190s finish.

    Everybody was playing left of me...so I had to move alot and had to ball done to the Grudge Hybrid to get a little more length. Missed a 10-pin in the 2nd frame, a 4-9 split in the 3rd, a [- 8] in the 4th, then a 5-10 split in the 6th. Kept things clean 7th through 10th...but I was really struggling.

    Game 3 was a tale of two lanes.
    On the Right lane: 8 -, 6-7-10 split, 4-7-10 split, 5-7 split, then 4-6-7 split. I actually made the 5-7...kinda the highlight of night.
    On the Left lane: X, 9 /, 7 /, X, 7 / X.

    PinPal Stats:
    First Ball Average: 8.38 pins
    Strikes: 34%
    Spares: 52% picked up

    Single Pin spares: 71% (5/7)
    Most common single-pin leave: 6-pin and 10-pin (2x each)
    Also left a single 2-pin, 4-pin, and 5-pin.

    Multiple Pin spares: 42% (6/14)
    Most common multi-pin leave: 3-6 (2x).

    Splits: 16% (1/6)

    Average over 3 games: 164.00.
    Average had I picked up all single-pin spares: 171.33.

    Always interesting playing the pro team. Everybody is a little more tense, trying a little harder, etc...

    I got kinda ticked off at my opponent at the start of Game 3. I went up to the approach and stopped to let the guy to the left of me bowl. My opponent got on the approach to the right of me...then the guy to the left of me ended up getting off the approach to do something with his ball or the lane wasn't working or something. I then stepped onto the approach, but realized the guy to the right of me had already stepped onto the approach...so I said, "sorry", and stepped back off the approach. But, the opponent then stepped off the approach with an annoyed look on his face and motioned for me to go.

    I mean, it's a rather high-level men's league and all...but its not the PBA Championship. It was my bad for not looking to my right after the guy to my left decided not to bowl...but it wasn't intentional. So, once he got me ticked off...well, then I actually bowled better. I just couldn't overcome the splits on the right lane.

    I took 3 out of 4 from my guy...and our team took at least 1 total and we won every match-up in Game 1...so we probably came close to splitting with them.
    In Bag: (: .) Motiv Trident Odyssey; (: .) Hammer Scorpion Sting; (: .) Pyramid Force Pearl; (: .) Brunswick Rhino Gold; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
    USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 185; Lifetime Average = 171;
    Ball Speed: 15.5mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 181

    Smokey this is not 'Nam', this is bowling. There are rules. Proud two-time winner of a bowlingboards.com weekly ball give-away!

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