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    I see some bowlers have two of the same ball. One is drilled pin up and one is drilled pin down.

    What is the difference in ball reaction?

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    I have no idea...but I hope if they were Storm Tropical Breezes...that they at least got two that were the same but had different smells.
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    Basically it is how fast the repond to driction. Pin up balls have a narroewe pin to VAL angle so as a result the repond quicker to friction and are therefore more angular. A pin down ball has a larger angle to the vAL and as a result has a slower response to friction and is smoother
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormed1 View Post
    Basically it is how fast the repond to driction. Pin up balls have a narroewe pin to VAL angle so as a result the repond quicker to friction and are therefore more angular. A pin down ball has a larger angle to the vAL and as a result has a slower response to friction and is smoother
    to generalize it more stormed, would it be correct to say that pin down has more length and is more arc shaped and pin up has less length and more angular?
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    ok the thing about pin down and pin up bowling balls is that.

    pin up- the ball goes longer and has a snap on the backend giving and strong move.

    pin down- the ball rolls out much sooner then a pin up and makes it nice arc into the pins and also makes the ball hook more becuase it will begin it hook much sooner then a pin up.


    so if you had 2 bowling balls that are the same if you where throwing your pin up ball and it was hitting the pocket very light or not getting to the pocket you would witch to your pin down and it would hit the pocket and get you those strikes.
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    Actually the drill angle drtermins when the ball goes into the hook phase. Most times the driller kicks the cg right which narrows the drill angle and as a result the ball goes into its hook phase earlier. My 3 dry lane balls are all pin down with layouts of 4x60x70,5.5x60x70 & 6x65x60. The longer pin to PAP cuts down the flare creating more length and the drilling andle get the ball down the lane also. My 2 hravy oil balls are the same ball (Sigma Hybrid) 5x35x35 (pin up) and 4x40x60 (pin down. Tye pin down due to the smaller drill angle starts at the arrows on a normal volume shot
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    thanks again Storm1 for the GREAT ADVICE!!! That makes it very clear! I am having my new Frantic, which I have only thrown maybe a dozen games, drilled with the new Tri-Grip system! Will have it ready to go for Thursdays league. Can't waint to see how it works out. I have talked to a couple other bowlers who had it done, and they LOVE IT!Will give you all Iceman's thoughts Thursday evening after league. Bruce, form BP Pro Shop here in Independence mo will be doing the plug, and re-drill!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    thanks again Storm1 for the GREAT ADVICE!!! That makes it very clear! I am having my new Frantic, which I have only thrown maybe a dozen games, drilled with the new Tri-Grip system! Will have it ready to go for Thursdays league. Can't waint to see how it works out. I have talked to a couple other bowlers who had it done, and they LOVE IT!Will give you all Iceman's thoughts Thursday evening after league. Bruce, form BP Pro Shop here in Independence mo will be doing the plug, and re-drill!
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    No,,, I am not throwing the ball, did not like the way it snapped at the end! I purchased it when I got the IQ pearl, the ball that gave me the 300. I thought it would be a good ball down ball, when the IQ pearl got to be too much. WRONG! It Took a left turn, in the right turn lane!!! So it was a good ball to change the pin position, and also the Tri-Grip! I will use it tomorrow on our Thursday night league! At the present time I am using the Beatdown, as my starter ball! It working great, and keeping my average so far over 200.... Its 207,,,, I hoping to have a 210 this season,,,, that would be a ten pin increase over last year..
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    My Frantic doesn't "snap" at the end. I mean, it curves in towards the pocket...moves 4 boards rightish, then back 15. But thats on wood lanes. On synthetic lanes it's almost a completely straight ball with maybe 1-2 boards of "flare" at the end. Granted, I have 75-100 games on it and i have noticed a fair reduction in reaction over that time...even with the cleaning and everything. I've had to adjust 3 boards right and aim 1 board left to hit the same spot as when it was new.
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