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    Default Righty cant stop crossing body with release armswing!

    hey guys and gals,

    I'm a righty

    here's a brief overview of my bowling experience:

    From ages 8 - 16 I was bowling in a Saturday morning league. I bowled for the first time in March of 2013 with my wife's godson since my childhood league experience. This awakened my love of bowling. I bought some balls, shoes, and other equipment for a Summer sport shot league and right now a THS league at Stardust bowl in Addison, IL.

    I've had a session with a coach and asked a teammate of mine to critique my mechanics. My biggest problem is I miss my spot to the left by 1 to 7 boards and, surprise surprise, my follow through or swing either hits the center of my head or completely crosses my head. This is the most consistent problem with my game.

    I have 5 strike balls and 1 spare ball. I know how they all react, were to through them, how fast to throw them, which hand grip to use depending on ball reaction/lane condition. I'm also adept at moving left depending on lane condition and which ball I'm using.

    It's just that damn crossover from my release that's just killing my accuracy.

    I will upload a video of my style within a week hopefully, but if you guys and gals could offer me some initial tips and pointers, it would be greatly appreciated.

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    the video will be the best way for us to help you if your going left that tends to go along with muscling the ball forcing it down in your back swing but like i said ill be able to help more once i see the video
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    Missing left can be caused by many things. You will have to work at determining which one may be the culprit. Some of the more common causes would include raising up a bit at the line, thus pulling the ball inside your mark. Also, moving your eyes off your target mark. Stay down at the line (post your shot) and watch the ball go over your target - preferably without blinking from the time you set on the approach.

    Your arm swing could be going out away from your body in the back swing. Keep your elbow area in close to your body on both the downswing and again coming forward.

    Of course, it could be timing, but you will have to determine if you feel that is the cause - without eyes or video, this would be difficult.

    Try some of the above. Also, in your follow through, maybe think of sticking your thumb in your ear...that keeps the ball swing underneath your eye.

    Also, do you drop your shoulder in your stance so that your right toe, ball, and eye, are all in alignment. Check out the DYDS article by Joe Slowinski. it explains this quite well. You can find it almost anywhere on the net, and probably somewhere on this site. Some of the "old style" approaches/methods just don't work in today's bowling environment. Be careful when reading or accepting advice that it is based on todays game not years ago. It can be hard to let go of some of those "old" habits. I know that from experience.

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    You had a coaching session, what did the coach advise you about the problem?

    Till we see your video this is just a guess.

    But the most common cause is that your holding the ball in front of your body or pushing it in front of you in your push away.

    This will cause the ball to be away from your body in the back swing , then in the down swing the ball will travel back toward your body. This will cause you to miss toward the inside of the lane.
    Example:

    Hold the ball more in line with your shoulder with your elbow more against your body.

    Example:
    Last edited by bowl1820; 09-28-2013 at 03:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Also, in your follow through, maybe think of sticking your thumb in your ear...that keeps the ball swing underneath your eye.
    That's the old grab your ear advice (also the pat yourself on the back advice), you really shouldn't do it. It can promote bending the arm too much.

    Think more of it as trying to reach out and "grab your target"
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    well i use to have that same probly but i still do but not as much it could be that you are roation your shoulder forward at the release witch will make your arm go left more so one main thing i was told was to work on not moving my shoulder at all threw the swing just until i got use to my shoulder not going past the one spot because in my backswing my shoulder comes back but now it dose not come forward as much but my body dose turn abit witch i need to fix.


    but as people have said a video will help out alot so we can see the exactly what is happening because what you are saying is what i use to do but with out a video it could be completely different
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    You had a coaching session, what did the coach advise you about the problem?

    Till we see your video this is just a guess.

    But the most common cause is that your holding the ball in front of your body or pushing it in front of you in your push away.

    This will cause the ball to be away from your body in the back swing , then in the down swing the ball will travel back toward your body. This will cause you to miss toward the inside of the lane.
    Example:

    Hold the ball more in line with your shoulder with your elbow more against your body.

    The graphic of 12 to 4 helps identify the problem...

    Do you happen to have a graphic of 1 to 5 to illustrate the solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    The graphic of 12 to 4 helps identify the problem...

    Do you happen to have a graphic of 1 to 5 to illustrate the solution?
    I was going to include one, but I didn't happen to find one. It took me a little bit to get around to making one. It's added in above.

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    as u can see a lot of different reason as to why =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Missing left can be caused by many things. You will have to work at determining which one may be the culprit. Some of the more common causes would include raising up a bit at the line, thus pulling the ball inside your mark. Also, moving your eyes off your target mark. Stay down at the line (post your shot) and watch the ball go over your target - preferably without blinking from the time you set on the approach.

    Your arm swing could be going out away from your body in the back swing. Keep your elbow area in close to your body on both the downswing and again coming forward.

    Of course, it could be timing, but you will have to determine if you feel that is the cause - without eyes or video, this would be difficult.

    Try some of the above. Also, in your follow through, maybe think of sticking your thumb in your ear...that keeps the ball swing underneath your eye.

    Also, do you drop your shoulder in your stance so that your right toe, ball, and eye, are all in alignment. Check out the DYDS article by Joe Slowinski. it explains this quite well. You can find it almost anywhere on the net, and probably somewhere on this site. Some of the "old style" approaches/methods just don't work in today's bowling environment. Be careful when reading or accepting advice that it is based on todays game not years ago. It can be hard to let go of some of those "old" habits. I know that from experience.

    Good luck and best of bowling to you.
    Ive been having problems similar to scruffwhor so ill give these a try

    Thanks classygranny
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