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    I gotta get going, so excuse me if someone has already said this, I didn't read the rest of the comments. Anyway, the reason those lines are there are likely because you're jumping pads to high (meaning you're going from 500 to 2000 or something)... If you go up by smaller amounts, it smooths out those lines... (something like 180,500,1000,2000).

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    Default 500 Siaair micro pad, would be, what when using.....

    500 Siaair Micro Pad; Rough Buff, how does this compare to paper, and the abralon pad! I have a number of DV8 balls, and it uses the Siaair micor Pad,,, For instances it says to use a 500 siaair micro pad, and rough buff for the older Red marauder. Would Reacta shine work as a (Rough buff?).. WHAT Abralon pad would be comparable to the 500 siaair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    500 Siaair Micro Pad; Rough Buff, how does this compare to paper, and the abralon pad! I have a number of DV8 balls, and it uses the Siaair micor Pad,,, For instances it says to use a 500 siaair micro pad, and rough buff for the older Red marauder. Would Reacta shine work as a (Rough buff?).. WHAT Abralon pad would be comparable to the 500 siaair!
    Abralon and Siaair grit sizes are the same and there is no practical difference between Abralon and Siaair when new.

    Abralon uses silicon carbide as its abrasive (very hard but brittle) while Siaair uses more conventional aluminum oxide as the abrasive.

    Siaair pads last a little longer, but can cost more and sometimes harder to get for a good price.

    As for the Rough Buff, no you can't use Reacta shine for a replacement. The closest thing would be Powerhouse Clean'N Sheen
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    Default Storm Reacta shine vs powerhouse clean n sheen... differance is??

    what is the difference between Storm Reacta shine, and Powerhouse Clean'N Sheen they both say they finish to a 1500 finish???? Does the storm have polish, and the clean n sheen dose not??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    what is the difference between Storm Reacta shine, and Powerhouse Clean'N Sheen they both say they finish to a 1500 finish???? Does the storm have polish, and the clean n sheen dose not??
    Reacta shine is just marketed towards Storm balls.. not a real big difference at all

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    Storm's Step 2 Has grit in it and takes the ball from 320 to 1500. Reacta Shine has very little grit. What I do when resurfacing a Storm or Roto Ball is 500/1000 Step 2 and then a light coat of Reacta Shine. For me I get basically the same apearance and reaction as OOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    what is the difference between Storm Reacta shine, and Powerhouse Clean'N Sheen they both say they finish to a 1500 finish???? Does the storm have polish, and the clean n sheen dose not??
    Quote Originally Posted by JaMau24 View Post
    Reacta shine is just marketed towards Storm balls.. not a real big difference at all
    There is a big difference.

    Powerhouse Clean'N Sheen is what use to be Track Clean'N Sheen, which was Originally A.P.P.'s Reaction "Heavy Duty Cleaner" .

    Clean'N Sheen would take a ball sanded at 320 grit to 1000 Grit.

    Now if you read the P.H. Clean'N Sheen info/bottle it say's.
    • Removes sanding lines from 500-grit Abralon® surface
    • Provides a 1500-grit compound finish

    500 grit Abralon is about 320 grit paper, so their saying it's going from 320 grit-1500grit

    The Storm Product that compares to that is Storm's Step 2 which take a ball sanded at 320 grit to 1500 Grit.

    Brunswick Rough Buff does the same thing

    Step 2=Rough Buff=PH Clean'N Sheen=320-1000/1500grit

    Reacta Shine doesn't do that, it is just a 1500 grit polish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormed1 View Post
    Storm's Step 2 Has grit in it and takes the ball from 320 to 1500. Reacta Shine has very little grit. What I do when resurfacing a Storm or Roto Ball is 500/1000 Step 2 and then a light coat of Reacta Shine. For me I get basically the same apearance and reaction as OOB
    I don't get it??? It says on storm's web site that Reacta shine takes the ball surface to 1500? Does it?

    storm's Step 2 has grit in it and it takes a ball from 320, to 1500, (can you explain how it does that ???)

    When you talking 320 1500, are you referring to sand paper, or abralon pad?

    first oof Storme1 and 1800 thanks for the information, I find that I have been doing fine on the cleaning, and polish, but resurfacing has been totally wrong! lol

    So Storm's step 2 does away with the need to sand the ball??? I guess you would at the least do the four side technique?

    When you say a light coat of Reacta Shine, do you use the spinner, and if so, do you do all four sides, on the spinner?

    I need to get the above straight!! LOL... find out I have been swimming up stream, and wondering why its taking so much effort. The IQ that I bowled the 300 with has never been the same since I mistakenly resurfaced it incorrectly!! I need to go through my choosen 5, (that I take on league nights), and resurface them all! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I don't get it??? It says on storm's web site that Reacta shine takes the ball surface to 1500? Does it?
    It all depends on what the underlaying grit is.
    Look at it this way, you can use reacta shine to maintain the surface, not to get it to that in the first place.

    In fact here look at this guide it tells you how to get the surface and what to use to maintain it till the nexr resurfacing.

    http://http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/ballreacionguide2011lr.pdf


    storm's Step 2 has grit in it and it takes a ball from 320, to 1500, (can you explain how it does that ???)
    Step 2 it has a coarser grit in it, if you tried to take a ball sanded at 320 up to 1500 with just reacta shine it would take a long long time.

    Reacta shine is a cleaner/polish with a finer grit to it

    When you talking 320 1500, are you referring to sand paper, or abralon pad?
    320 1500 are referring to sandpaper grits
    In abralon those would be about 500 - 3000


    So Storm's step 2 does away with the need to sand the ball??? I guess you would at the least do the four side technique?
    No you still have to sand the ball, the underlaying textures of the other grits used are what get you to the final surface you want.

    When you say a light coat of Reacta Shine, do you use the spinner, and if so, do you do all four sides, on the spinner?
    Last edited by bowl1820; 10-10-2013 at 11:36 AM.

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    Default Freight Train need me,,, question?

    ok ,, its sinking in LOL.... another question, getting ready to resurface the Freight Train it has another surface prep, what is this"
    Freight Train Specs factory E=performance 1500 grit,,, I assum that would be paper, not the pad??


    Product ID: 10420

    Brand: 900 Global

    Release Date: 07/05/2012

    Perfect Scale®: 220.2

    Performance: Pro Performance(10)

    RG: 2.543

    Differential: 0.055

    Lane Condition: Heavy


    Finish: Sanded

    Coverstock: Reactive Resin

    Coverstock Name: S77 Reactive

    Factory Finish: E = performance of 1,500 grit

    Core Type: Symmetric

    Core Name: Combustion w / Energy Block

    Quality: First Quality

    Color(s): Black,Grey
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