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    Ok I am bowling two leagues now. Thursday is the killer one with 5 man teams and I been used to two man for the last year. I am having a problem with keeping the ball on the right side lane . I am a stroker with a speed around 13 and a low-medium rev rate. I am using a vibe when the lane is at the driest but even then I am throwing across 15 to 5 and still coming in hard and heavy. I have moved around a couple times and thought occuured to try to speed the ball up but even do that I lose way more accuracy .Any opinions or help would be appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithalw View Post
    Ok I am bowling two leagues now. Thursday is the killer one with 5 man teams and I been used to two man for the last year. I am having a problem with keeping the ball on the right side lane . I am a stroker with a speed around 13 and a low-medium rev rate. I am using a vibe when the lane is at the driest but even then I am throwing across 15 to 5 and still coming in hard and heavy. I have moved around a couple times and thought occuured to try to speed the ball up but even do that I lose way more accuracy .Any opinions or help would be appreciated
    First there is an article in the last issue of Bowling this Month ( available free on line ) by Rob Mautner addressing this problem.

    Second, to be able to use a technique like speed control you need to practice it, Next time you roll some practice games, try throwing one game slower than normal, then one faster, then see if you can get back to normal.

    Third, For a lot of strokers there's a mental block when it comes to playing inside. Again you need to practice what you don't like to do because it feels "wrong".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithalw View Post
    Ok I am bowling two leagues now. Thursday is the killer one with 5 man teams and I been used to two man for the last year. I am having a problem with keeping the ball on the right side lane . I am a stroker with a speed around 13 and a low-medium rev rate. I am using a vibe when the lane is at the driest but even then I am throwing across 15 to 5 and still coming in hard and heavy. I have moved around a couple times and thought occuured to try to speed the ball up but even do that I lose way more accuracy .Any opinions or help would be appreciated
    I feel your pain,,, I bowled this summer with my wife on a two person league, and without a doubt, if a person wants a higher aveage, and series especially, you should bowl on a two person team!

    This goes for all bowlers, at any level! I bowled with some great bowlers last night, on a 5 person team, 10 bowlers on the lanes, all right handed! Things went well for the first two games, I had a 231, 210, and lets not talk about it (((177)))! Two of my teammates that have high averages above 224,,, had low scores well below 200 in the third game also! They, along with me, tried everything we could think of to make adjustments,,, the oil was just 10 personed out!!LOL.. LOL..

    I am either going to have to learn to bowl left handed, or just get on smaller teams, like 2 person, 3 person!! As I have said, lots of advantages the smaller the team sizes!
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    I've never had this problem, but I've seen people with more high-end reactive balls go through it. I can usually find a spot between the 7th board and 16th board no matter how the oil gets pushed around.

    Practicing yesterday, the lanes weren't oiled like they are for league night...very, very dry. And I ended up throwing at the 8 board and having the ball go out towards the 2 board and then back. I normally never do that because I get too nervous about the gutter on the right side. But with there being such little oil on the lanes in the 10-15 area...it was the best I could do. If that didn't work, I'd have had to start moving left and throwing a more straight ball at the 12-16 boards...hoping there was still oil there.

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    I ran into this Sunday night at a smaller alley doing an all you can bowl. There wasn't much oil out there at all. I normally use the third dot on the right pretty much between the first and second arrows. On the lanes I bowl at for leages this is perfect and my DV8 Misfit hooked right towards the pocket (when I hit the damn mark...I need to work on my accuracy) but Sunday if I hit that spot I would be lucky to pick up the seven pin if not to land in the left gutter. Holy Dry!

    So I adjusted by moving left and trying to throw an angle with my ball moving between the center and third arrow and hooking back to the pocket. I had moderate success with this.

    My scores were pretty bad. But I think a good portion of this is that I was throwing this ball for only the second set of games. Secondly this is my first experience throwing a hook with a resin ball.

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    it happens but i ask how you are speeding your ball up? and also are you able to ball down cuz even speeding your ball may not help due to it rolling out best bets move deep left or ball down
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    I havent really tried speeding it up a lot cause I know it would not be accurate with it. I guess I do need to practice throwing the ball a little faster and a little slower. Noeymc if you mean by ball down going to a weaker ball the vibe is the weakest ball I have besides my plastic. I did look at getting a rotogrip shout and get the proshop to drill it for dry dry conditions. Far as trying to speed the ball up on hopw I do it I just put a little more muscle into it instead of just letting the ball fall and doing the pendulum I just add muscle to the pendulum motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithalw View Post
    I havent really tried speeding it up a lot cause I know it would not be accurate with it. I guess I do need to practice throwing the ball a little faster and a little slower. Noeymc if you mean by ball down going to a weaker ball the vibe is the weakest ball I have besides my plastic. I did look at getting a rotogrip shout and get the proshop to drill it for dry dry conditions. Far as trying to speed the ball up on hopw I do it I just put a little more muscle into it instead of just letting the ball fall and doing the pendulum I just add muscle to the pendulum motion.
    The traditional way of throwing faster is to hold the ball higher in your stance. This is why coaches recommend starting with the ball waist high. This gives you room to hold it higher to throw with more speed, or lower to go slower.

    The newer method is to start further back holding the ball lower. Since the swing will take the same or slightly less time your feet will have to move faster to keep in time with the swing giving you more speed.

    Trying to throw it harder explains why your accuracy suffers. It also kills revs for most people. Our arm and shoulder muscles are stronger than our wrists. Trying to pull the ball down from the top of the back swing overpowers the wrist and and makes it bend backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    First there is an article in the last issue of Bowling this Month ( available free on line ) by Rob Mautner
    This. For years I was playing the 10 board at the arrows, this summer I changed this up and now play a more inside line at 15 at arrows with a break point anywhere from 8-13 or so. Playing this way has done a lot to help my game improve thus far this season. When the line burns up, move in more to stay in the oil.
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