Recent technique videos for noeymc

[Hampe]

But if I'm hitting left of the headpin consistently...bowling logic says to move left...but then I get too far left and start throwing the ball in the right gutter. So then I gotta move my target. If I move it left and my feet a little left...back to hitting left of the headpin.

I'm not sure how this applies to everyone else, but generally when I move more than 2.5-3 boards left, I will need to move my target at the arrows 1 board left. If you are moving both your feet and target left, but still hitting brooklyn, you probably need to move your feet another 1-3 boards. My coach always says 3-4 boards per target board, but I find that applies more the farther left I go.

What helps me with accuracy (especially avoiding brooklyns or gutters) is to look at the break point first, draw a line on the lane from the break point to my target at the arrows, and then try to push off, swing the ball, and follow through along that line. Drawing this line sometimes also corrects my feet after making a line adjustment. For example, I'll move my target 1 board left and think I need to move my feet 2 boards left, and after drawing the line, will notice that I'm not lined up properly and have to move another board left in order to swing the ball along that line.

Dunno if that makes any sense.....it's just what's been working real well for me since I started doing it.

[Aslan]

Okay…UPDATE TIME!!!

Left my phone at work over the Thanksgiving weekend so I couldn't tape myself Friday…but my mother came along for some casual bowling tonight and was kind enough to video.

First…it was Saturday night…so it was dark, it was neon, it was black lit, it was loud, it was annoying.
Second…I was bowling with my daughter so the bumpers were up…
Third…I got "creative" and made the videos into a bit of a "montage"…enjoy!!



Okay…this bowling center…is where I play Thursday night leagues…and it is by FAR the heaviest oil, slickest synthetic lanes I've ever played on. But…probably due to the long holiday weekend…these lanes were the driest synthetic lanes I've yet experienced. I mean, it seemed like they probably hadn't been oiled since Wednesday evening.

Approach 1 (98 game): You'll see that I'm starting out near center and throwing at the 10 board/2nd arrow. But I just couldn't keep the ball anywhere near the right side of the headpin. I also had trouble picking up the 10-pin spare…because by back-up ball (Frantic) was hooking more than usual.

Approach 2 (128 game): I missed right of my target, so the ball hit high. Then trying to pick up the spare…the ball was just hooking far too much.

Approach 3 (155 game): I was moving left…but even though I struck, it was brooklyn.

Approach 4 (149 game): You can see in the video; I'm about as far left as I can get…throwing deep inside. I missed a little right so it hit high. Then again…ball was still hooking too much and I missed picking up the spare hitting left.

Approach 5 (111 game): Halfway through the 5th game, I switched balls. I figured the Rhythm was just too strong and I was running out of room inside. So I switched to the Frantic. Took me some time to figure out where to throw it given it was hooking WAY more than it ever has. Left a 10-pin…and even though my spare shooting was improving after flattening out my release…I missed a little right and hit the bumper just before the 10-pin.

So…there ya go noeymc!! You should see a significant difference in form/approach/release compared to my first couple video compilations. Still struggling with "timing". Sometimes it seems that I'm getting to the foul line before the ball is coming down…sometimes it feels like it's at the top of the backswing and ready to come down long before I'm at the foul line.

Gonna do some practicing at these lanes again on Monday. Hopefully by then they've put some fresh oil down or I'm gonna be real pissed come Thursday when all of the sudden my ball is sailing straight up the right side through a sea of oil.

[noeymc]

you gotta follow thour more once the ball is out your hand it stops keep it going up that should help with you going left right of your mark and thats somthing simple u can incorporate into your game

[Aslan]

you gotta follow thour more once the ball is out your hand it stops keep it going up that should help with you going left right of your mark and thats somthing simple u can incorporate into your game

THANKS!!

I actually noticed that as well after seeing the videos. I also can't tell from the videos (thanks to stupid cosmic bowling lighting) if I'm facing forward or slightly right after the release. Hopefully a better lighting situation next time.

[vdubtx]

Looking better than the last set of videos you posted. You have a right lean of your torso to your approach, wonder if that is causing some issues with targeting etc.

[Aslan]

Looking better than the last set of videos you posted. You have a right lean of your torso to your approach, wonder if that is causing some issues with targeting etc.

Yeah…I'm not sure…the lean doesn't seem bad…but then I see it on the video and it seems more pronounced. Something to think about.

I actually was having a good night of hitting my target…only missed a couple times per game tops. But just couldn't keep the ball on the right side of the headpin due to lane conditions. It was a very weird feeling playing the extreme inside line…first time trying that. It just makes me feel like I'm throwing it directly at the gutter…hard to trust that it's gonna turn before it slides in the gutter when you're throwing it at that angle.

[Aslan]

Well, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHE6...ature=youtu.be is the newest installment of "Aslan Learns to Bowl" and "Noeymc Teaches Aslan to Bowl".

Not sure if I've moved forwards or backwards. Seem to be "chucking" it more than I was. And I still have that weird footwork thing going on where I kinda "skip" towards the foul line.

I try to concentrate on my balance arm…but I get too lost in focusing on timing and then being scared of the foul line and release that I often forget.

Oh well…enjoy, critique, be entertained….etc...

[sprocket]

You have got to get rid of that loft. You are releasing the ball way too late. You are completely past the leverage point. You try that where I bowl and the ball will skid 60 ft. Next time you practice step back on the approach and try your very best to set off the foul light by rolling the ball over it. I doubt you will be able to do it but the attempt should get your swing plane flatter and get you releasing the ball earlier and ROLLING the ball.

[vdubtx]

Agreed about getting rid of the loft. Also, your first step seems so labored and forced. Loosen up a bit and just take a step as you would walking normally.

[Aslan]

You have got to get rid of that loft. You are releasing the ball way too late.

Why? NOT being argumentative and I appreciate the feedback (and actually have been trying to do just what you are saying). I'm just wondering "why" high loft is so bad?

You try that where I bowl and the ball will skid 60 ft.

Well…quick backstory…in an attempt to help me with this problem:

1) I was taught to loft it like that by a bronze level USBC coach that also lofts is like that and carries a 201 average.
2) I STOPPED lofting it after joining a league on heavy-oil synthetics and having the ball not react to the lanes. I was essentially not giving it enough time on the lane to react TO the lane…and it just would skid right of the headpin. I had to resort to a straight shot and hope that my excessive speed/momentum would help me.

3) One coach at a clinic wanted to get rid of the loft and speed (19+mph). The other coach (previously mentioned) just wanted to get rid of the speed. So I shortened my approach, lessened my backswing, and tried to reduce the loft.

4) The ISSUE I've been having is that the loft is a result of my upward swing. That upward swing allows me to impart revs on the ball. If I lose the loft….I lose the revs. So in other words, rock meets hard place, because I can either swing with too much speed and loft but some revolutions…or I can lose the speed and loft and revolutions…and in both scenarios…the ball tends to miss right.

So…long story short…you're right. And I've tried to lose the loft. I've managed to slow things down considerably…but I'm really struggling to get revs without that loft.

Agreed about getting rid of the loft.

Weird thing is….again, not arguing…thankful for the help (noeymc seems to have abandoned me)…just stating an issue: I actually bowl better with the loft. I got rid of it…and seemed to do "okay"…especially on heavier oil synthetics. Got the ball to react a little bit better. But then I started playing in a few other places and I gotta admit…I do better with the loft. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT…nor does it mean I ain't gonna try and change it. I just have to find a way to make the low-loft swing/release work better.

And as I said above…the REAL ISSUE is I can't seem to get REVS without that upward "snap"….and the upward "snap" leads to the loft. I've tried to use the same movement and just release earlier…but the ball seems to "fall off" my hands before I can impart the revs.

Also, your first step seems so labored and forced. Loosen up a bit and just take a step as you would walking normally.

Yes. It's very akward and I hate it. I also hate (if you look real close or slow the video down you can see this) that I seem to "hop" or "skip" during my approach. The reason the 1st step is/seems so akward/forced is I've had to work to stop my natural tendency to "run". So coaches have had me move up to just in front of the front dots. Also, I've been working a lot on my timing and that akward first step is happening as I push the ball out forward. I used to use more of a hinge type of forward motion with the ball…but at a clinic I go to, the instructor wanted me to push it out rather than hinge it because I was sort of just "dropping it" and not getting the pendulum effect…which led to me "muscling" it in the backswing, timing issues, etc…


Thanks guys! Obviously, I wouldn't be posting these if I wasn't looking for help/feedback. Well, other than the opportunity to mess with iMovie. But still. I'm hoping once I get my financial stuff in order I might start taking some REAL lessons. I've taken some lessons and done weekly clinics…but I need a coach that is gonna really sort of "own" my game and development process. A person where I can consistently get the same message, the same direction, the same focus areas.