this is prob why you guys think i am late my coach was the one who changed my start i use to do both at the same time and ive been doing a bad job of waiting on the ball witch is why i prob been bowling so bad thank you guys for all your input like i said i was never saying any of you where wrong and thanks to bowl1820 for posting this it made a lot of sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lE7DawI7_8