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    Sweepers are the last week of the bowling season when monies are handed out dependent on how your league Prize Fund is set up. Bowling that night can be anything from 9 pin no tap, to a handicap or scratch tournament for a certain amount of money as prizes. Typically no points are awarded that week for team bowling, it is usually an individual event.

    In my Thursday league we typically do a Men's and Women's handicap tourney type set up. We also do cross overs where we pair up men/women that want to use their scores in another side tournament. Single events pay in $5 per person, cross overs pay in $ 1 each and the high scores at end of night pay out for the top however many spots the money allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubtx View Post
    Sweepers are the last week of the bowling season when monies are handed out dependent on how your league Prize Fund is set up. Bowling that night can be anything from 9 pin no tap, to a handicap or scratch tournament for a certain amount of money as prizes. Typically no points are awarded that week for team bowling, it is usually an individual event.


    In my Thursday league we typically do a Men's and Women's handicap tourney type set up. We also do cross overs where we pair up men/women that want to use their scores in another side tournament. Single events pay in $5 per person, cross overs pay in $ 1 each and the high scores at end of night pay out for the top however many spots the money allows.

    In my short time bowling league, I have never had a sweeper where money, or cash was involved.... but I have had on last night a few times 9 pin tap, but no prizes, or cash!! (
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    In my short time bowling league, I have never had a sweeper where money, or cash was involved.... but I have had on last night a few times 9 pin tap, but no prizes, or cash!! (
    All dependent on what the league decides in meeting to begin the year. Maybe bring it up in your next meeting to spice things up a bit at end of year. They are kind of fun. I typically bowl horribly during them and someone with a low average is the one that always wins the top prizes each year. If a female wants to cross over bowl with me I will, but since handicap comes into play, the individual events I don't enter.
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    From what I understand…in our league, the first place team gets a trophy and some cash. All other cash (the majority of it) is given out at a (sweeper) tournament in Vegas in March. From what I gathered…I think it's a singles tournament where players are grouped based on average. So like, the top 5 players bowl against each other, the next 5, etc… And there might be men's/women's divisions. And I think they give out money for overall high score, high handicap score, etc… I've never been to Vegas nor bowled in a tourney…so I'm looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    From what I understand…in our league, the first place team gets a trophy and some cash. All other cash (the majority of it) is given out at a (sweeper) tournament in Vegas in March. From what I gathered…I think it's a singles tournament where players are grouped based on average. So like, the top 5 players bowl against each other, the next 5, etc… And there might be men's/women's divisions. And I think they give out money for overall high score, high handicap score, etc… I've never been to Vegas nor bowled in a tourney…so I'm looking forward to it.
    never been to vegas?!? Its pretty much the city of everything you like to do!

    On a side note, the few alleys ive been to in vegas are VERY nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-tank View Post
    never been to vegas?!? Its pretty much the city of everything you like to do!
    That's the problem…I may never leave.
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    Speaking of sweepers, I ran an five game Sunday morning "sweeper" for about 7 years. Everyone established a sweeper average after 10 games, which was two tournaments. Then the average was adjusted every tournament just like a league. You could not have a sweeper average that was more than ten pins less than your last year's high league average. Until you established a sweeper average, your last year's high league average was what was used, with the exception that if you averaged more than ten pins higher than you last year's high league average in your FIRST tournament then your average would be re-rated up for the second tournament. I believe I split the difference so if you came to your first tournament with a 190 league average and then average 220 in the sweeper, you would be re-rated to 205 for the second tournament. To make things even more complicated, if you did not have a league average from last year then you could use this year's league average with at least 21 games as long as you had a current standing sheet.

    I'm not done. If your current league average after 21 games was higher than your last year's high league average then you were expected to use your current average, until your sweeper average was established although that one was hard for me to prove. I looked up everyone's average in the average books and the tournament was sanctioned. You also had to have your USBC membership card or someway of proving you were a sanctioned bowler.

    Now why did I have such a complex system which was so labor intensive for me as the director? TO AVOID SANDBAGGING! Someone might have been able to sandbag once and get away with it BUT NEVER TWICE. It also tended to have many of the same people bowling year after year. There was one guy who sandbagged the first tournament one year and tried to do the same thing the next year. He had a 140 book average and the second time around I didn't wait one tournament, I re-rated him to 190 on the spot. He bowled anyway and of course got nothing and I never saw him again.
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    Now why did I have such a complex system which was so labor intensive for me as the director? TO AVOID SANDBAGGING! Someone might have been able to sandbag once and get away with it BUT NEVER TWICE. It also tended to have many of the same people bowling year after year. There was one guy who sandbagged the first tournament one year and tried to do the same thing the next year. He had a 140 book average and the second time around I didn't wait one tournament, I re-rated him to 190 on the spot. He bowled anyway and of course got nothing and I never saw him again.[/QUOTE]

    NICE,,, great idea!! Nothing lower then a sandbagger, they dishonor the sport!!!
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