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    Default How to Tame a Virtual Gravity, nano pearl on league night.

    since a pearl finish with high polish saves energy, does it have a more radical dive into the pocket then a Matte finish? My Virtual Gravity nano pearl, was way to powerful after clearing the heads Thursday night! RIGHT from the start!! That is new for this ball! It's worked like a champ for several weeks, now right out of the blocks first frame, first game, its going Brooklyn, even after moving left for me! I tried a new line but no luck!

    my question is this,,, You play a certain alley, every week, and you pretty much know what to expect, but one day you come in and find that ball that always works it actually TOO STRONG at the end.

    What can you do to take some of the snap out after it clears the heads, and in that last 3 feet or so!!!

    Is it because there is good oil and the Virtual Gravity Nano pearl is too powerful?

    Could it be that that same alley 3 days earlier, when I threw the 300, and 780 series, it was lighter oil, and the ball lost some energy, thus the great score?

    If that's the case what can you do to a ball while bowling to take some of that huge energy it stores and delivers at the end that snap, that takes it brokylin!

    My question is if I don't want to trade for another ball, but want to modify my ball what do you do? Would ruff buff, take care of it, is it leagal? Take the polish off with ball cleaner ??

    That Nano works great, but sometimes, Its just too strong, what can a person do to the ball on league night to tame it??
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    Well Rough Buff would be illegal to use during league play.

    When you moved left, did you also move your line inside?

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    Default Too much oil, or was it drier then normal??? that is the question

    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Well Rough Buff would be illegal to use during league play.

    When you moved left, did you also move your line inside?
    What does a rough buff mean? Simply using a, say green pad to rough up the surface and remove some of the polish? Let's say I had two V.G. nano pearls, drilled the same way, and one was being set up for this situation, and I am not sure what it was, other then I couldn't get that darn ball to get to the pocket.

    kept going Brooklyn right from the get go!!! I have yet to see that happen on this league! I went the full 3 games Monday when I had that 300/780, with the v.G. Nano pearl!

    question bowl1820: Does the polish make a ball save energy, and have that huge dive at the end just before impact?
    If it does, then dose rough buff burn up some of that energy, and take some of that ark off the ball?
    This whole thing about a ball saving energy, or losing energy has Iceman confused?
    I am not sure if the lanes had too much oil, thus saved up a bunch causing the bad angle into the pocket

    This is one part of my game I need to figure out in regards to Hot and Cold series I seem to have! Once I have this part figured out, I do believe my averge will go up huge!

    yes I did move left along with moving target,, but nothing seemed to give me that look. (it wasn't just me, the whole team was struggling Thursday)

    except for MANIC,, she was at her average!
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    I would say if the ball is hooking too late and too sharp then scuffing it up can change that shape and you can do that during warm-ups. However, if the ball is just plain hooking too much overall and moving left doesn't help, then you can either increase speed, take some hand out of it, or try to use a more end over end roll. Scuffing it will not lessen its overall hook IMHO. The simplest thing is to just put it away and use something that hooks less. That's why you have multiple balls right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    What does a rough buff mean?
    Mike in your first post you asked "Would ruff buff, take care of it, is it leagal?"
    I answered "Well Rough Buff would be illegal to use during league play."

    Rough Buff and ruff buff are the same thing, "Brunswick’s Rough Buff"

    Now you can change the surface before you bowl that would be legal. Would Rough Buff make a difference? It would depend on what the surface was before you used it.

    Simply using a, say green pad to rough up the surface and remove some of the polish?!
    Yes you could remove some polish with a green pad before you bowl, that could even the reaction out some.

    Some other things to try are change your release some, target a little farther down the lane, move your line inside to stay in the oil longer

    question bowl1820: Does the polish make a ball save energy, and have that huge dive at the end just before impact?
    Yes if you polish a ball it will skid more in oil and save energy.

    You might read the article in the last issue of BTM about playing the inside line. it could help.
    http://conta.cc/19qNzSJ

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    Pearl balls are designed to skid more in the oil and react more quickly to the friction. Keep in mind that "covering more boards" is purely a result of when the ball responds to the friction. If you use a pearl ball to get to the friction that is past the pattern, it will cover fewer boards, but retain more energy to knock down the pins. If you use a pearl ball to react to the friction that is on the outside of the pattern, then it will cover more boards and probably be dead by the time it gets to the pins.

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    More surface = more traction in the oil.
    Less surface = more reaction to the friction.
    Too much surface in friction = ball straightening out and hitting like a marshmallow.

    or the old saying

    "A sanded ball hooks less but earlier and a polished ball hooks more but later."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Mike in your first post you asked "Would ruff buff, take care of it, is it leagal?"
    I answered "Well Rough Buff would be illegal to use during league play."

    Rough Buff and ruff buff are the same thing, "Brunswick’s Rough Buff"

    Now you can change the surface before you bowl that would be legal. Would Rough Buff make a difference? It would depend on what the surface was before you used it.


    Yes you could remove some polish with a green pad before you bowl, that could even the reaction out some.

    Some other things to try are change your release some, target a little farther down the lane, move your line inside to stay in the oil longer


    Yes if you polish a ball it will skid more in oil and save energy.

    You might read the article in the last issue of BTM about playing the inside line. it could help.
    http://conta.cc/19qNzSJ

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    thanks to both of you,,, I will keep the information in mind, and try applying that knowledge to what ever situation comes up Sunday! THANKS for taking the time to help this old burnt up retired Iron worker...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    More surface = more traction in the oil.
    Less surface = more reaction to the friction.
    Too much surface in friction = ball straightening out and hitting like a marshmallow.

    or the old saying

    "A sanded ball hooks less but earlier and a polished ball hooks more but later."
    maybe a stupid question, but why would you even want to throw a Matte, or sanded surface if it "hits like a marshmallows?"

    I know that a matte ball takes on the oil early, as does a sanded low grit ball, but if it effects the hitting power by eating up the energy,,,, ,, then why would you want to throw one with that surface,, I for one would not want a marshmallow hit.. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    maybe a stupid question, but why would you even want to throw a Matte, or sanded surface if it "hits like a marshmallows?"

    I know that a matte ball takes on the oil early, as does a sanded low grit ball, but if it effects the hitting power by eating up the energy,,,, ,, then why would you want to throw one with that surface,, I for one would not want a marshmallow hit.. LOL
    What it said was "Too much surface in friction = ball straightening out and hitting like a marshmallow."

    Not that a sanded ball would hit like a marshmallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    What it said was "Too much surface in friction = ball straightening out and hitting like a marshmallow."

    Not that a sanded ball would hit like a marshmallow.
    I guess the TRICKY thing is knowing what amount of surface on a matte ball needs before it turns into a marshmallow!! LOL

    I appreciate your patience with me on this matter!

    One other question: can you put on too much polish? Say I divide the ball in half, and put the Reacta Shine on both halfs, after cleaning with cleaning fluid.
    If I were to divide it into 4th,, or 6ths, would that polish overlap build up, or does the nature of the polish just go on a certain amount regardless?

    doesn't it reach a point of diminishing returns in regards to how many coats a person puts on?

    Does one coat make a ball behave any differently then Two, or 3???

    Once I get this all straight in my head, I know I will do a better job getting my balls ready for what ever might be waiting!
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