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    Quote Originally Posted by e-tank View Post
    your ball goes straight because youre very speed dominant which is why if theres anything other than dry lane your ball goes straight. Slowing down your speed to somewhat match your rev rate is something that you should do as according to kegel, only a slight dominance in either rev or speed produces the best carry. Most pros dont throw the strongest balls, if you want to hook like a pro you need a release like a pro.
    I would question the validity of that statement. Last time I checked, most of the Storm pros were throwing MarvelS and SYNCs not Frantics and Tropical Breezes. I don't think the Brunswick pros are throwing Slingshots or Strike Kings as their main strike ball. And pro drill layouts are usually far different than what a standard pro shop would drill for a casual or even house league bowler.

    Obviously pros are pros because of their approach, release, and consistency as well as their ability to read and adapt to lane conditions/changes very quickly. But they also throw better equipment (for the most part). Even if for no other reason than marketing. I think Storm would be pissed if they're trying to sell the new BYTE for $174.99 and trying to generate "buzz"...and their top sponsored pros were all throwing $75 Tropical Breezes because they all loved the scent of cinnamon cupcakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I would question the validity of that statement. Last time I checked, most of the Storm pros were throwing MarvelS and SYNCs not Frantics and Tropical Breezes. I don't think the Brunswick pros are throwing Slingshots or Strike Kings as their main strike ball. And pro drill layouts are usually far different than what a standard pro shop would drill for a casual or even house league bowler.

    Obviously pros are pros because of their approach, release, and consistency as well as their ability to read and adapt to lane conditions/changes very quickly. But they also throw better equipment (for the most part). Even if for no other reason than marketing. I think Storm would be pissed if they're trying to sell the new BYTE for $174.99 and trying to generate "buzz"...and their top sponsored pros were all throwing $75 Tropical Breezes because they all loved the scent of cinnamon cupcakes.
    for the most part i see hyroad pearls, wreckers, iq pealrs and at strongest, defiant soul.

    from Brunswick mostly meanstreaks. Saw an aura once.

    The reason those hi end balls are what every body wants is because they think the ball is going to give them that pro style hook or they just buy it because its the most expensive(high price = more strikes right?)
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    I like cinnamon cupcakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpuppy View Post
    I like cinnamon cupcakes
    Well...it's "unique and special" bowlers like you that have helped Storm become the bowler's #1 company for bowling balls!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-tank View Post
    for the most part i see hyroad pearls, wreckers, iq pealrs and at strongest, defiant soul.

    from Brunswick mostly meanstreaks. Saw an aura once.

    The reason those hi end balls are what every body wants is because they think the ball is going to give them that pro style hook or they just buy it because its the most expensive(high price = more strikes right?)
    With the exception of the Hy Road...those are all high end balls. And the Hy Road is a 1/2 level below high end.

    I think sometimes people buy the newest ball for the same reason they buy the newest iPhone...to say, "Look at me!! Look at me!!" And while I employ a more economical strategy of buying older models of things (bowling balls, cars, electronics) at discounted prices...I "will" admit I have the mystic aura and Storm BYTE on my "wish list"...even I am not TOTALLY immune from good marketing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin View Post
    an incresed of 4-5 miles an hour on a Cyclone I would expect to reduce hook by 5-10 boards(with my release). so if you had say 8 boards of hook to start with it is entirely possbile that you are now just throwing it though the breakpoint.


    Did you try moving outside and throwing it down say the 5 board and see if it picks up quicker and turns the corner?
    I did not, but will give that a shot today.

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    I think it's finding a balance between what works best for you and the "ideal." Every bowler's style is unique.

    Also, being able to figure out which ball, or speed, or release, or track etc., matches up best with the lane condition you're dealing with at the time.
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    i never got a brand new ball i wait for the price drop 100 dollars and get it then if i want all bowling balls are the same only difference is a name change lol
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    Ok, so my practice session today was a tad bit better for about half a game, and then I threw a few good frames near the end when I realized that I'm releasing the ball too early - the way I figured this out was that I noticed all of the sudden, on half my throws the ball was bouncing off the beginning of the alley - it was coming off my thumb cleanly, so the only logical explanation I can think of is that the ball is being released way too early (as compared to my old style). This would make sense, when I totally focused on not releasing early I could hook the ball more like I used to, also a couple of times I released late and despite having a bunch of unintended loft it hooked like crazy.

    SO, now I have another aspect to the whole new approach/footwork/etc, lol maybe I should bowl old style for my league though - I'll have to mention to our captain, as the last two practice sessions I've actually bowled several games worse than the first week and I suspect my average is gonna drop drastically.

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    it always gets worse before it gets better in bowling
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