Thats one way to do it. I dont think I would want to have to sit out any games so it may make me try harder.Originally Posted by J Anderson
I would suggest going with the three man league and have all four men on the roster. All four show up each week and either the low man or the one most pins under average/least pins over sits out. We did this in the seventies with a 6 person roster for a five man team and kept track of who was low the last game of the previous week to know who would sit out the first game. If they were low the second game, then the next lowest would sit out the last game. Most people need that assurance that they'll get to bowl at least two games or they won't show up.
John
Thats one way to do it. I dont think I would want to have to sit out any games so it may make me try harder.
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Actually it's more complicated because I have 4 + a sub. So really, I HAVE a 5-man team…but one of the guys doesn't want to commit to playing every week.
If the 2 AMF centers don't respond and/or have 4-team leagues…we'll just do the 5-man league and either try to pick up another bowler from work, to maybe split time with the guy who wants to be a sub…or have the center hook us up with a player looking for a team.
It's all good. I just get frustrated with AMF…because a lot of them are struggling for business…and they are focusing on ambiance and food and beverages…yet can't seem to grasp basic customer service.
I think you have a management problem, not necessarily a AMF/Bowlmore problem!
I can honestly say that here in the Kansas city area, where we have 3 close to where I live, they are doing a good job so far!! Good oil before EACH and every league, only difference is some of the food and beer prices when up.
The same management as before they came involved, and they do keep us league bowlers happy!
They call US about leagues, and ask if we are interested! They have great follow up on calls... so Aslan,,, I believe its YOUR management that is lacking, not the company in general!
So far so good here in Kansas City Missouri!!
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AMF pissed me off again last week.
On Wednesday nights there is three leagues going on it is a 60 lane house and after the three leagues there is about 6 lanes available for open bowling after you take out what is used by leagues and the buffer pairs.
They just put in these fancy scoring systems and with these systems there is no longer the easy intercom we used to have now we have video chat with the desk.
Well I had a pin jam on my lane and every time I called up to the desk they hung up on me
It took over 20 minutes to get them to radio the mechanic and tell him there was a pin jam on my lane. Because the assistant manager wanted to deal with the open bowlers and ignore the league bowlers. (which fill that house 4 nights a week)
They have cut every ones hours so much and run on such a skeleton crew that they cant handle their responsibilities even when they know the house is going to be filled.
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Sorry to hear your haveing problems you might....
sorry to hear about your problems!!! All I can say is here in the Kansas City area, things are Good, and no problems! If I had management problems I would call, and or send information to them! I doubt they will last long!
They know that a balance of league and recreational bowlers is a MUST FOR IT TO SURVIVE! It could be just bad, or poor management!
I would rate our AMF on vivion, here in Kansas city A plus! Great bunch of managers, and they take good care everyone! Sorry to hear your having problems down there in Tulsa!!
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I was just up at the AMF practicing with a few guys. A few lanes broke down and they kicked out all the open bowlers even a little girls birthday party. As I was leaving the parents were calling the local new station( this news station has a segment called problem solvers that deals with this kind of stuff and much more)
With me being a league bowler I dont have a problem with leaving if they need to move a league team to my where I am. But to kick out a party that had been previously arranged is a bunch of bull poo poo.
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Just as an update; after waiting 2 months for one of the 2 AMF centers to call me back, I filled my 5-man team and joined the Thursday league in my current house.
Sorry AMF...I love your hot dogs...but if you got a person asking about joining a league and you don't get back to them for over 2 months (and counting); you don't deserve the business. I'll take my $90/night in fees and food/beverages somewhere else. The 2 private centers I called...I had an email back within 24 hours!
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Ouch!!! It's just a individual management thing I am sure! Here I get calls from both AMF's in regards to coming leagues, and signing up.
Not all AMF's Are Created equal! LOL
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I know you are right. I am considering not going back to the AMF here due to some really poor management.
They used to be pretty good and the shot aint to bad.
The proshop used to be AMF owned and they had decent prices but here recently the guy that ran the proshop made a deal with AMF to lease the shop and bought out all of the inventory. This allowed him to jack the prices up. For example the price on the Deadly Aim here is $259.99 where one of the other houses has it priced for 199.99.
After the bowlmor takeover they cut everyones hours and lost the best people that they had.
One being their senior mechanic. Now there seems to be more and more maintenance issues showing up.
I am about to the point that I cant even force myself to buy a soda in this place cause I dont want to support this house.
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Final Book Averages for Fall:192 Current averages in Summer: PBA 182, Tuesday 202, Thursday 205
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