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    Quote Originally Posted by dnhoffman View Post
    Im sure it's all my fault.
    Wait…now YOU'RE playing the victim??!

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    No, I'm saying you're the perpetual victim so it must be my fault... It's easier than explaining reality to you because you'll just deny it all anyway and blame everyone else so... Easier to just say "I'm sure it's all my fault"

    Anyway, good,luck with your cross, I hope nobody needs the wood before you're done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Okay…thats fair. But where does it end? At what point does a 300 mean less?? If it was bowled with an illegal ball? Maybe a 17lb ball or a ball that is bigger than average? What about no-tap? See…everyone wants all the benefits of being able to brag about their great scores…yet they don't want to pay $20/year to make them "official"…and they act like it's a waste of $20. It's $20 per year for crying out loud!! It's NOT the money!! And sanctioned leagues are just as fun as non-sanctioned leagues…so that argument doesn't fly either. And that makes me wonder…makes me suspicious. If people are so, so, so adamantly against having their scores "sanctioned"…why?? For $20/year??? Come on.
    Who said they were against having their scores sanctioned? Are there ball companies out there making illegally heavy balls, or bigger than normal balls? I happen to bowl in a league that decided before I joined that being sanctioned wasn't something they were worried about. I honestly don't think there was ever a 700 in the league before I joined. If it was worth it to more people, I'd push for it, to mostly 170 or below bowlers that are lucky to ever break 600, and maybe have a 250 once every few years it just doesn't buy them anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnhoffman View Post
    "Neither the views of Aslan, nor the comments found within his walls of text, accurately represent the opinions of the majority of rational sane bowlers participating in USBC sanctioned leagues. Additionally, please understand that most bowlers participating in organized leagues, sanctioned or otherwise, are shaking their collective heads at this entire thread."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I keep forgetting about the Michigan contingent and the sub-standard reading comprehension.

    But you appear to have grasped the concept just fine.

    To me...a person that claims to have an average > 170 and 300 games and 700+ series yet has no USBC number and doesn't bowl in sanctioned leagues...is like:

    1) That guy you golf with that claims he's a scratch golfer yet EVERY time you golf with him he shoots about 35 over and claims it's because THAT golf course doesn't maintain it's greens properly.

    or
    2) That kid in school that was really good at sports in gym class but never actually joined a team.

    I played hockey with a kid in high school that was actually quite skilled. But our high school didn't have a team and he was too lazy to join an organized travel team. But I think it was more than just laziness. Like our previous discussions about THS vs. sport patterns and how afraid most "good" bowlers are of getting outside their comfort zone...I think he was "afraid"...that if he actually played against "real" players...he wouldn't be as good (comparitively speaking)...so he never bothered. He was probably good enough to "maybe" get a college scholarship had he applied himself...but he was content just being the best player at midnight every other friday for drop-in hockey. And thats sad (in my opinion).
    Thank you for your kind words. I am proud to be a member of the Enchanted Mitten contingent. Most things in Michigan are sub-standard just like, as you stated, our reading comprehension. When I grow up I hope that I can collect enough returnables to save up to move to a place half as cool as Cali. That is my goal. If you believe it you can achieve it.

    Really though I don't care whether someone bowls sanctioned or non-sanctioned. That is their choice. I chose to bowl sanctioned. I don't even like to practice or open bowl as it seems pointless to me (other than 15 minute practice before my league starts).

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    There are a great number of league bowlers who view bowling as a game, not a sport. It's an excuse to get out of the house, have some friendly competition, and hang around with friends. These people look at the USBC and only see the awards, which seem to get fewer and chintzier every year, and the nationally recognized averages. They figure they're never going to get one of the few nice awards, and they don't bowl in tournaments so they see very little value to having the league sanctioned.

    The USBC does a terrible job of trying to sell these bowlers on the value that it provides for all bowlers. I've bowled in one league that has bounced back and forth between being sanctioned and not. It usually boils down to whether there are a few captains that really want the league to be sanctioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnhoffman View Post
    No, I'm saying you're the perpetual victim so it must be my fault... It's easier than explaining reality to you because you'll just deny it all anyway and blame everyone else so... Easier to just say "I'm sure it's all my fault"

    Anyway, good,luck with your cross, I hope nobody needs the wood before you're done!
    Oh no you don't…you don't just get to jump off the cross and immediately post me on it!

    Still feeling sorry for D-hoff…he tried random hating on posts and got a negative reaction…oh boo-boo…I'm so sad for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tr33frog View Post
    I'll admit, I LOL!
    See: "Easily Impressed…" post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    There are a great number of league bowlers who view bowling as a game, not a sport. It's an excuse to get out of the house, have some friendly competition, and hang around with friends. These people look at the USBC and only see the awards, which seem to get fewer and chintzier every year, and the nationally recognized averages. They figure they're never going to get one of the few nice awards, and they don't bowl in tournaments so they see very little value to having the league sanctioned.

    The USBC does a terrible job of trying to sell these bowlers on the value that it provides for all bowlers. I've bowled in one league that has bounced back and forth between being sanctioned and not. It usually boils down to whether there are a few captains that really want the league to be sanctioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Oh no you don't…you don't just get to jump off the cross and immediately post me on it!

    Still feeling sorry for D-hoff…he tried random hating on posts and got a negative reaction…oh boo-boo…I'm so sad for him.
    What color is the sun on the planet you live on?

    The only one giving a negative reaction is... You. And frankly, that's par for the course. Everyone else laughed at my posts, said your posts were insulting, and one person even took the time to send me a PM thanking me for calling you out for the victim you always bemoan yourself to be.

    But somewhere, on the strange planet only you live on, you imagined this going differently... Wow man, that's just sad.

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