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    Default Do you get worse or better as the night progresses?

    I think I get worse as the night goes on, and that's primarily because the oil pattern breaking down. I expect most of the responses to be that, but I'm sure there are some people who actually do better as the night goes on because they get loose or something. Of course, there might be some people who get worse because of attitude issues, or maybe because of alcoholic beverages as well.


    This is my average for each game so far on my Thursday league...

    Game 1: 243.92
    Game 2: 241.67
    Game 3: 221.42


    That's crazy to see a 20 pin drop in my opinion, but I think it's more because I'm doing so well the first two games, rather than doing so poorly the last game, if that makes sense. And as I explained, it's gotta be because the pattern breaking down as well.

    So what is it for you? Worse or better as the night goes on?
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    If you are averaging 700 a week I wouldn't be too concerned myself.

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    Just went back and looked at my stats from the last 2 seasons, and there isn't really any kind of pattern at all. For example my averages per game this season are 209, 196, 213....the first 5 weeks of the season I got progressively better (190, 200, 225) but then the last 3 weeks the first game was the best by far (240, 189, 194).

    It seems like generally my second game is the worst, which makes sense to me since I usually start off great, make my first adjustments too late (usually the end of the 1st/start of the 2nd game), and then after I'm conscious of making adjustments start to make them on time for the rest of the evening. But all that said, last season my averages were 167, 178, 172....so It could just be random.

    The other league I play in is 4 game series and it seems to get a little better as the night goes on, but not by much (171, 176, 182, 178). I don't have stats from last year and this is only based on 6 series, so I guess basically I don't really get much better or worse as the night goes on in either league.
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    Jason,

    In my Tuesday league in a house that has a lighter concentration of oil (have to ask them about the length as well), I average 244.25 game 1, 212.25 game 2, and 205.50 game 3. 220 total through 36 games.

    On my Thursday league, I average 227.42 game 1, 227.75 game 2, and 235 game 3. 230 total through 36 games.

    One other thing I do notice between the 2 houses is my 10 pin pickups are 10% points higher in my Tuesday house at 94% vs. 84% on Thursday nights. Not much other explanation other than it's in my head I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMau24 View Post
    So what is it for you? Worse or better as the night goes on?
    It would appear that I get better as the night goes on.

    Last years game by game averages:
    Sport: 169, 170, 172, 171 Righty
    House: 162, 165, 174 Lefty

    This year:
    Sport: 169, 175, 174, 176 Righty
    House: 185, 183, 196 Righty

    Like Hampe, it looks like I have a little dip dealing with transition the second game on the house shot. Of course second game is when I start going through the pay envelopes, recording who has paid so I can make change for the teams that pay late, so it might not really be the lanes, but a temporary lapse in focus.
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    Rock stars around here...

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    Default hummmmm well

    since I don't keep track of scores with an app, and I don't keep records of all my games long hand, I can't say?

    I do know that my first 300 in April was the second game, and the last one was the first game. And that series went: 300 first game, 216, and then 264. In the middle game that night I had a carry problem the seemed to work itself out in the third game. I did move back about a foot in that middle game to change the angle, and it seemed to work in the third game with the first 8 frames being strikes......

    I need to do that bowling app,,, and start keeping records... Would be fun to know all the statistics it keeps!!

    Jason your bowling GREAT!!! Last night you almost did the 800 again.... just a few bad fricken breaks... GREAT Bowling!!
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    If your league uploads to LeagueSecretary.com you can see some of your stats there too.
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    I used to get progressvely better as the night went on...then I realized there were two more important factors than time:

    1) How good I'm doing.
    2) How much I'm drinking.

    If I drink too heavily...by game 3 I'm not concentrating at all on bowling and am usually firmly entrenched in "how can I pick up that chick" mode. But even more than that...it really depends on how well I'm doing. If I'm having a good night...I usually can keep having a good night. If I'm having a bad night...I continue to have a bad night. My game is more "mental" than I choose to accept.
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    usually game 1 i bowl good

    then game 2 i get into a slump

    game 3 i get my stuff together and bowl good again

    sometimes its the other way around, sometimes all 3 games are about even but above is an avg night
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