Balance HOLE

[MICHAEL]

How much effect can a balance hole have on a ball after its been drilled! Does it REALLY have a significant impact on the balls, hook? Can it even out a ball that has too much hook, or lessen one that has too much snap!

I was told by a driller here in town that drilling ( finger holes, deeper can make a difference)?

My question is after your ball has been drilled, how can you adjust the above without damaging a ball performance!

[dnhoffman]

Balance holes are normally for just that - balance. In order to be USBC compliant a ball cannot have more than a certain proportion of its weight to one side or another, so the balance hole is to adjust that after drilling.

They're also be used to adjust the amount of flare potential on a ball, you can see an example in the outline of any of Storm's drill sheets on their website.

[bowl1820]

How much effect can a balance hole have on a ball after its been drilled! Does it REALLY have a significant impact on the balls, hook? Can it even out a ball that has too much hook, or lessen one that has too much snap!

A properly placed balance hole when coordinated with the layout can enhance the hook, it can even out the reaction some or have basically no effect other than make the static weights legal.

A Mo quote: "The balance hole can represent 60% of the effect of the layout on ball motion."

Might read the gradient line balance hole material

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ima...adientLine.pdf

I was told by a driller here in town that drilling ( finger holes, deeper can make a difference)?

It can.

My question is after your ball has been drilled, how can you adjust the above without damaging a ball performance!

You mean drill the finger holes deeper?

[MICHAEL]

You mean drill the finger holes deeper?[/QUOTE]

thanks both of you for your response! Question is this:

how does the relationship between the balance hole, and drilling the finger holes deeper relate to ball performance changes?

Should a person go with one over the other first!

assuming that the ball is legal I didn't even need a balance hole.

Would you start with drilling the finger holes deeper, to effect hook,,,, to even it out, or balance hole? I have a frantic that has huge snap into the pocket, my driller James mentioned that drilling the finger holes deeper would even it out.

I didn't notice a big difference after having it done. So now I am thinking about balance hole!

I do like the movement of that Beatdown,,, more of a gradual arch into the pocket then that storm balls! Both are great brands, but the Beatdown has a very different move on the pocket.

How has yours been working out for you! remember I had the Tri grip,,, and I did get a 16lber! I have this feeling that something good is going to happen in the near future with the Beatdown!

[sprocket]

Let's say you had a balance hole in a neutral position. This would be called a P2 position and there is some flexibility on exactly where it has to be but it simply returns the static weights to legal and has virtually no affect on ball motion. But you want more snap on the back end so you ask your driller to move the hole down as close to the level of the thumb hole as possible. This would be a P4 position on an asymmetrical ball and you might call it P3.5 on a symmetrical ball.

Well, maybe it's possible to move the hole that far and maybe not. It has to remain statically legal and moving it that far might make it statically illegal. BUT he can drill the finger holes deeper to help get it back statically legal! So there is probably a limit on how far the hole can be moved while also drilling the finger holes deeper.

I don't know how much change in reaction you can get by just drilling the finger holes deeper. Maybe a little bit because they are then deep holes that get close to the core of the ball.

I just had the balance hole moved from P3 to P2 on my IQ Tour Pearl which wasn't a huge move but it did make a fair amount of difference. The ball is much more controllable now.

[bowl1820]

Most drillers will only drill the fingers and/or thumb as deep as they need to to keep the ball statically legal. If the ball is "legal" to begin with, most go with a balance hole to change the reaction first. And then the fingers if needed.

Drilling the fingers deeper can somewhat make the ball roll sooner and have more of a smoother arc when it starts to hook. But it will depend on just what your doing and wanting out of it.

Now as you see going deeper didn't make much of a difference for you. (Now I had a friend who had his fingers drilled out to just make it legal and the ball wouldn't hook for nothing anymore.)

How has yours been working out for you!

Well haven't been bowling my best the last few weeks, not the balls fault!

The Beatdown has been looking good though. Nice smooth arc, good control, rev's up a little earlier. Now I just made a change last night and redid the surface with a 1500 grit paper. Which gave me a little better length, but I have to try it one more time to see just how it is.

[dnhoffman]

Good thread topic. Bowl - can you explain the difference between a balance hole and a MOtion hole?

[bowl1820]

Good thread topic. Bowl - can you explain the difference between a balance hole and a MOtion hole?

I don't know all the technical info about the MOtion hole. But the Mo Hole is just a balance hole, it's just located in a different spot than the more common ones.

It's basically is designed to give you more Length and more Backend. Which The other holes can't do both at the same time.

And while you can use it on symmetrical and Asymmetrical balls, I believe Mo recommends only using it on Symmetrical's.


Theres a thread with a video here:

http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...-Demonstration

[sprocket]

The beauty with the MOtion hole is that you start small with it and then increase size and depth until you get the reaction you want. No plugging of the first MOtion hole needed.

Actually Iceman, you are the PERFECT candidate to try out the MOtion hole on your next ball. You could let us know how it works out for you.

[MICHAEL]

The Beatdown has been looking good though. Nice smooth arc, good control, rev's up a little earlier. Now I just made a change last night and redid the surface with a 1500 grit paper. Which gave me a little better length, but I have to try it one more time to see just how it is.[/QUOTE]

Hummm the beatdown, I thought was 4000 out of the box? I thought the higher the grit, the further down the lanes your ball will go before flipping? I would think the 1500 grit would make it kick in earlier? ((( O wait you put 1500 grit PAPER)),,,, how does that compare to the red pads? I changed my surface for the first time on my beatdown last week when I had that 684. I went from the out of box 4000, to 2000 pad, not paper!

Nothing great so far in league, with the beatdown, but It did pick up sooner, and had a nice look, without the huge flip at the end. It carried the 10 pin most of the night with that angle. It was a good series, so time will tell if it measures up to my Two Storm balls that have been very ,,, VERY good to me! lol