Low grit, but high polish?

[bowl1820]

I put my sync yo 500 to try try playing over the middle deep inside.

well, didn't work... At all.

In what way didn't it ? Hook too much, Not enough, it straighten out etc.

[Pauley]

This is why I have a spinner on the way., I just enjoy playing around with different options and tinkering just to see how it will work. Only 4 months in and already have 5 balls with a spinner and oven on the way.

If my other two hobbies (golf and fishing) are any indicator of what will happen, I will have enough bowling stuff in my basement to open my own retail store soon...

[sprocket]

I practiced this morning and quickly hit my Tour IQ Pearl and my Strike Zone with Mequires Ultimate Polish. This was after doing a little degreasing. I just did maybe a one minute polish on each side. My spinner is the top of the agitator on my top load washing machine. The ball spins nicely on center at 1000 or 700 RPM on the spin cycle. This won't work with every top loader but it works with mine due to the design of the agitator. There's a nice hole on top that the ball sits in.

Anywho, the Strike Zone still has scratches from a coarser finish and I am polishing over that. I practiced with several other guys this morning and that ball was a BEAST. I had a look that none of them had. The polish gets it down the lane and that it makes a very angular hard move to the pocket, but a very controlled move. I think the surface under the polish helps gain traction on the back end. I had 279 the third game with the IQ Pearl but shortly thereafter it was going too long, probably from pushing oil. But see, that ball doesn't have much surface under the polish and oil is its worst enemy.

I averaged 227 for 10 games and never any any point had to hunt for the shot. I moved five board left with my feet total and 2 or 3 boards left with my mark. This is my new thing: I LOVE POLISH!

[MICHAEL]

Well I decided it was time to play with the surface of the beatdown! I first used a 500 pad, (not paper), then cleaned it with alcohol/simply green, 50/50!

Then I decided to put a coat of Brunswick Rough buff (factory finish!) I didn't want to use Stroms Reata-Shire on this matte ball, but thought it might be interesting to use the Rough buff!

The ball had great movement, cleared the heads better then without the rough buff, and had lots of energy left to do a beautiful angle into the pocket!

My 687, tonight could have easily been much higher, it wasn't the balls fault when on occasion I would miss my Fricken Mark by a few boards!! LOL ( HEY lack of focus, watching Icewoman bowl ) she had a great evening! 237 last game.

Anyway I like the movement even better now on the beatdown with the two steps I used above!

Having a spinner is KEY to good bowling!!!! I would HIGLY recommend one if you have several balls, the money it can save you will pay for it in no time!!

I was able to stay on the same target arrow all night, and didn't have to move at all!!!

[e-tank]

^^

Sounds like you had some success with the rough buff. I used track clean n smooth(similar to rough buff) on a few pieces and i love it. It seems like the perfect balance of length and bite for the unkept backends of my house on league night. Just a fyi if you didnt know already iceman, rough buff takes a ball from lower grit to a higher grit from the abrasives in the polish so depending how long you polished, you couldved ended up with a ball that was ~1500 grit polished. If you were to add the reacta shine on the other hand, you wouldve had a polished ball with a ton of surface underneath it. Try both and see if you can tell the difference

[MICHAEL]

polish is not the enemy, but how you apply it can be!! That's where a spinner can correct this problem BIG TIME!
I have said it before, and Iceman will say it again, ( If you want to improve your game, and get to the NEXT LEVEL, the best money you can spend on a Christmas Gift would be a Ball Spinner! \

Think about it,,,, doesn't your WIFE NEED ONE REAL BAD!! "Merry Christmas Honey,, look at what Santa Got YOU!" Ho,,HO, HOOOOOOOOO!

even distribution of polish is much easier to apply with a spinner, if done properly!

[MICHAEL]

Last week I started using Rough Buff Stuff made by Brunswick on my Brunswick Beatdown!

After bowling I clean it with 50/50 simple green and Scotch whiskey! I clean the ball with simple green/and drink a couple shots of whiskey!

Then I put a coat on four sides of rough buff liquid made by Brunswick! (using my spinner).

That ball is now my go to ball, had another 600 plus last night! That ball is working great, and I now think that the KEY is finding the right surface condition for each and every ball. As you all know, every ball is different with a unique movement based in part on YOUR STYLE of bowling!

Do yourself a HUGE Favor,,, get ya a spinner!! It will make your Christmas a very jolly one!!! HO,,,ho, HOOOOOO!

[bowl1820]

Sounds like you had some success with the rough buff. I used track clean n smooth(similar to rough buff) on a few pieces and i love it. It seems like the perfect balance of length and bite for the unkept backends of my house on league night. Just a fyi if you didnt know already iceman, rough buff takes a ball from lower grit to a higher grit from the abrasives in the polish so depending how long you polished, you couldved ended up with a ball that was ~1500 grit polished. If you were to add the reacta shine on the other hand, you wouldve had a polished ball with a ton of surface underneath it. Try both and see if you can tell the difference

Powerhouse/Track Clean'N Sheen would be closer to Brunswick Rough Buff

Clean'N Smooth is a little bit finer.

[e-tank]

Powerhouse/Track Clean'N Sheen would be closer to Brunswick Rough Buff

Clean'N Smooth is a little bit finer.

I assumed since rough buff finishes somewhere around 1000 to 1500 grit, clean n smooth would be similar seeing as it finishes around 1500 grit dull?

[bowl1820]

I assumed since rough buff finishes somewhere around 1000 to 1500 grit, clean n smooth would be similar seeing as it finishes around 1500 grit dull?

Both Clean'N Sheen and Rough Buff are compound finishes, they are a abrasive liquids that slightly polishes and more to be used with rougher base grit surfaces.

Powerhouse/Track: Clean'N Sheen:Takes the final sanding stage (500 Abralon and up) to a 1500-grit compound finish. (The old listing was 320 grit to 1000 grit)

Brunswick Rough Buff is basically the same and was used with a base grit of 220 and up.

For a comparable Storm Product it would be Storms Step #2. which goes 320 to 1500 grit.

Now Clean'N Smooth: Which is "Designed to restore to 1500 smooth finish", would be used more with finer base grit surfaces.

Now if you have a ball with a fine base grit, you could get away with switching Clean'N Smooth with Rough Buff or R.Buff with C'N Smooth.

Where you would see the difference would be when you start going to coarser base grits.


It's hard to compare a lot of these because it depends on just how they are used, the base grits, if applied by hand or spinner, plus the terms used (Example: 1500 "smooth" is not the same as 1500 "polished").

I try to base it on what the companies themselves say about the products and what the most common excepted usages are. (Plus what comparisons I've been able to do)