Two handed bowling

[krash11554]

Hi i am 16 years old and recently converted to two handed bowling. first off the main reason is because i got into so many bad habits with 1 hand and i was loosing interest in bowling but then tried two hands i had the fire again to bowl. So ive been trying to do it like jason belmonte. PErsonally i think hes the best. So here a video of the most recent bowling i have. Any suggestions throw them at me. Also im using finger tipp and when i put my fingers in the ball i tend to move my hand a little to the right because i feel like i have more support with ball so idk if thts right or wrong. So if any has any knowledge please let me know.
Thanks!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u1mmrbm09k36tsn/Bowling.mp4

[sprocket]

I'll give you my two cents.

Watch the you tube videos of Belmonte. Particularly there is one that compares Belmonte to Osku. Both have far more spine tilt at the line than you do. The spine tilt creates a much longer flat spot at the bottom so their swings planes are much flatter than yours. I actually like Osku's delivery a little better even though Belmonte is the better bowler. Osku drives of the front of his right foot but Belmonte drives off the side of his foot. Your right foot is turned out like Belmonte's. You plant and pull I think due to a lack of spine tilt. You tend to fall off to the right. I notice that your head is actually right of the ball at the top. I'm not sure if that is a factor or not but it might indicate that your balance is leaning a little right and therefore you sometimes fall off to the right.

Overall I think you look pretty good. If the ball is comfortable in your hand then it is probably right. I assume you would tend to hold the ball so that it sits the flattest in your palm with both your gripping fingers feeling like they are spanned equally.

BTW I am not a coach. I can only watch and compare and I could be wrong.

[krash11554]

I've been trying to bend down more i have a video from about 3 weeks ago where my back is a lot straighter so you think I should try to bend more ?

[Aslan]

As with thumbless; the key is going to be your ability to pick up spares and since you're relying on high revolutions…how you adapt to different and changing oil patterns.

[krash11554]

i bowl for highschool so my coach is teaching me how to adapt to changing oil patterns so thats covered. But these clips i was trying trying different things to see how they feel and how they look. If anyone knows what would more bending do? Will it make my ball speed increase? This next video was when i just started so you can see the differences.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulf7sdlrr7...0Beggining.MOV

[sprocket]

More spine tilt will create a flatter swing plane. The ball will have a longer sweet spot at the bottom and the ball will be propelled parallel to the lane and land smoothly. Will speed increase? Probably because there is a longer acceleration zone at the bottom and I think the legs are in a position for more leverage.

Don't ask me how they do it though. I can tell you what I observe and can see the differences but I am not a coach so telling you how to make the changes is not something I know much about. Again, my observations may not be quite right either but I haven't seen anyone jumping in yet with a different take on the situation.

And Aslan is right out spare shooting particularly with right corner spares. The left side spares on a THS you should be able to figure out how to create as much area as possible using the dry boards and hooking the ball. For example if you get lined up correctly for the 7 pin you might be able to miss several boards at the arrows in either direction and still pick it up. The right corner spares are going to require you to be accurate and throw the ball pretty straight.

[krash11554]

More spine tilt will create a flatter swing plane. The ball will have a longer sweet spot at the bottom and the ball will be propelled parallel to the lane and land smoothly. Will speed increase? Probably because there is a longer acceleration zone at the bottom and I think the legs are in a position for more leverage.

Don't ask me how they do it though. I can tell you what I observe and can see the differences but I am not a coach so telling you how to make the changes is not something I know much about. Again, my observations may not be quite right either but I haven't seen anyone jumping in yet with a different take on the situation.

And Aslan is right out spare shooting particularly with right corner spares. The left side spares on a THS you should be able to figure out how to create as much area as possible using the dry boards and hooking the ball. For example if you get lined up correctly for the 7 pin you might be able to miss several boards at the arrows in either direction and still pick it up. The right corner spares are going to require you to be accurate and throw the ball pretty straight.

First i just want to say thanks for replying and it looks like im the same as most two handers untill the bend. As i have been watching more two handers it looks like they really start to bend when the ball just passes there waist on the backswing. So like this picture with Jason.
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[krash11554]

Vs me like this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yrq1s9xo0j...4.Still001.jpg

[J Anderson]

Vs me like this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yrq1s9xo0j...4.Still001.jpg

Looking at the still picture you look like you've got a good knee bend. watching the video I wasn't seeing it, especially in the second one, probably because you tend to pop back up at the line. You want to stay down with the shot and be in balance as you come to a stop and watch how your ball tracks down the lane.

[krash11554]

Looking at the still picture you look like you've got a good knee bend. watching the video I wasn't seeing it, especially in the second one, probably because you tend to pop back up at the line. You want to stay down with the shot and be in balance as you come to a stop and watch how your ball tracks down the lane.

Gotcha well the second video was like the first time trying by myself. Soo I dont really expect a lot from it. But I still would like to bend down a little more